Ace2
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June 23rd, 2022 at 3:49:59 PM permalink
I'd read that: "For a century after the invention of modern Craps, casinos used unfair dice. In approximately 1907, a dicemaker named John H. Winn in Philadelphia introduced a layout which featured bets on Don't Pass as well as Pass. Virtually all modern casinos use his innovation, which incentivizes casinos to use fair dice."

Sounds reasonable. However, since only a very small minority of players are regular darkside bettors, wouldn't the casinos still be incentivized to use unfair dice? If that's the case then playing don't pass could potentially be a positive EV bet.
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DJTeddyBear
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June 23rd, 2022 at 3:58:25 PM permalink
That sounds like some gambler’s fallacy type thinking.

On the other hand, Vegas is featuring a lot more crapless craps than ever before… 🤷‍♂️
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Ace2
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June 23rd, 2022 at 4:03:10 PM permalink
Not at all related to gambler's fallacy.

Good point on crapless craps though. This would be the game where casinos would have most incentive to use unfair dice since there is no Don't Pass line. But it would still be exploitable via lay bets.
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June 23rd, 2022 at 4:59:11 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

Not at all related to gambler's fallacy.

Good point on crapless craps though. This would be the game where casinos would have most incentive to use unfair dice since there is no Don't Pass line. But it would still be exploitable via lay bets.
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June 23rd, 2022 at 5:04:03 PM permalink
This is just a preview click the link to take your red pill


http://dicecollector.com/docs/diceinfo_hc_evans_catalog_1949.pdf

your welcome

and more of their catlogs

http://dicecollector.com/docs/diceinfo_hc_evans_1909.pdf
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June 23rd, 2022 at 5:23:37 PM permalink
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your welcome
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Thank you, I found this rabbit hole most interesting
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DJTeddyBear
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June 23rd, 2022 at 5:30:16 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

… But it would still be exploitable via lay bets.
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I thought crapless craps didn’t have lay bets.
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June 23rd, 2022 at 5:48:35 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

Not at all related to gambler's fallacy.

Good point on crapless craps though. This would be the game where casinos would have most incentive to use unfair dice since there is no Don't Pass line. But it would still be exploitable via lay bets.
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There are lay bets in crapless craps????
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June 23rd, 2022 at 5:54:46 PM permalink
I just wish the dice and glass on the bubble craps machine were cleaned/polished after every 100,000 rolls.
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June 23rd, 2022 at 6:21:49 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Quote: Ace2

Not at all related to gambler's fallacy.

Good point on crapless craps though. This would be the game where casinos would have most incentive to use unfair dice since there is no Don't Pass line. But it would still be exploitable via lay bets.
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There are lay bets in crapless craps????
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No
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.

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