PinkJack
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November 4th, 2019 at 4:06:01 PM permalink
Hey guys. What has been your maximum Blackjack win using Basic Strategy and Flat Betting only?

To make things simpler: Assume that you placed a flat bet of $10 per round.

Start: $600
End: $720
Flat Bet: $10
Profit: $120

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ChumpChange
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November 4th, 2019 at 5:36:18 PM permalink
Can I play half bets when I'm feeling low?
Can I double my bet when I'm feeling high?
No? Sounds like a harsh flat betting.

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November 4th, 2019 at 6:50:35 PM permalink
Flat betting $5, I once cashed out $200 in under an hour at the El Cortez. Two other players at the table, one of them a drunken career Marine who commented loudly after every hand I won. When I got a BJ on the first hand after I cut, he wanted to start betting on my hands. Between my lucky streak and his loud mouth, we had two pit guys watching like hawks. It was a great run.
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November 4th, 2019 at 7:26:43 PM permalink
I have no idea. My most memorable blackjack shoe consisted of getting blackjack 4 times in a row amongst other things.
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November 4th, 2019 at 8:59:11 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

I have no idea. My most memorable blackjack shoe consisted of getting blackjack 4 times in a row amongst other things.

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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
ChumpChange
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November 4th, 2019 at 10:49:55 PM permalink
I downloaded a Spanish 21 app onto my tablet. The stats section has some glitch, but it says I'm down 49 hands in 463 hands.
172 Wins, 221 losses, 42 pushes, and the rest of the stats reset when I closed the tablet and plugged in the charger and played some more later.
There's ads every few minutes, but if I click on my balance I can get another 5K points just for watching an ad right away. So I'm seeing offers to download slot games I might see in a casino, and I did that (Like Monopoly, and Fortune 88).
I lose 2 points every hand to pay for a progressive jackpot on Aces, which is around 5K points.
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November 5th, 2019 at 9:47:51 AM permalink
One night when I was winning every hand on a single deck BJ, no matter what they did, shuffle, change dealers, change decks, I ended up ahead over $60K and I was pretty much flat betting about $800. per hand, it just didn't occur to me to bet more I was having such a good time.

But then I've also gone to the BJ table in between grand Bacc. shuffles with about eighty bucks and pressed it repeatedly because I didn't care and walked back to the Baccarat six K ahead, and that definitely was not flat betting. My cousin keeps reminding me about that time: "I've seen you press eighty dollars to six thousand."

Over all, flat betting is a sure way to lose unless you're on a monstrously lucky run. Flat betting is also very boring, Unless you are on one of those monster runs.

I suppose the only potential plus to flat betting is that if you do get on a monster run, and are winning most every hand, when the run stops as long as you do stop, you're only going to lose a few units versus if you're pressing heavily and your run turns savagely against you, you might give back quite a lot with those pressed bets before you stop. That's probably why I was able to leave with all of that over $60K, betting just around eight hunny a hand when I started losing it was quickly apparent, "Hey did I actually just lose a hand? Oh, another hand? Hmm, I better stop." and all I gave back was a few units from the highest point.
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November 5th, 2019 at 10:41:37 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

One night when I was winning every hand on a single deck BJ, no matter what they did, shuffle, change dealers, change decks, I ended up ahead over $60K and I was pretty much flat betting about $800. per hand, it just didn't occur to me to bet more I was having such a good time.

But then I've also gone to the BJ table in between grand Bacc. shuffles with about eighty bucks and pressed it repeatedly because I didn't care and walked back to the Baccarat six K ahead, and that definitely was not flat betting. My cousin keeps reminding me about that time: "I've seen you press eighty dollars to six thousand."

Over all, flat betting is a sure way to lose unless you're on a monstrously lucky run. Flat betting is also very boring, Unless you are on one of those monster runs.

I suppose the only potential plus to flat betting is that if you do get on a monster run, and are winning most every hand, when the run stops as long as you do stop, you're only going to lose a few units versus if you're pressing heavily and your run turns savagely against you, you might give back quite a lot with those pressed bets before you stop. That's probably why I was able to leave with all of that over $60K, betting just around eight hunny a hand when I started losing it was quickly apparent, "Hey did I actually just lose a hand? Oh, another hand? Hmm, I better stop." and all I gave back was a few units from the highest point.

up over 75 units in one night flat betting on a live game. Sounds legit.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 5th, 2019 at 11:18:00 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

One night when I was winning every hand on a single deck BJ, no matter what they did, shuffle, change dealers, change decks, I ended up ahead over $60K and I was pretty much flat betting about $800. per hand, it just didn't occur to me to bet more I was having such a good time.

But then I've also gone to the BJ table in between grand Bacc. shuffles with about eighty bucks and pressed it repeatedly because I didn't care and walked back to the Baccarat six K ahead, and that definitely was not flat betting. My cousin keeps reminding me about that time: "I've seen you press eighty dollars to six thousand."

Over all, flat betting is a sure way to lose unless you're on a monstrously lucky run. Flat betting is also very boring, Unless you are on one of those monster runs.

I suppose the only potential plus to flat betting is that if you do get on a monster run, and are winning most every hand, when the run stops as long as you do stop, you're only going to lose a few units versus if you're pressing heavily and your run turns savagely against you, you might give back quite a lot with those pressed bets before you stop. That's probably why I was able to leave with all of that over $60K, betting just around eight hunny a hand when I started losing it was quickly apparent, "Hey did I actually just lose a hand? Oh, another hand? Hmm, I better stop." and all I gave back was a few units from the highest point.



I believe everything except the part about you giving back a few units
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November 5th, 2019 at 11:19:28 AM permalink
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up over 75 units in one night flat betting on a live game. Sounds legit.


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ChumpChange
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November 5th, 2019 at 12:05:52 PM permalink
Well, that's 2 sets of winning 35 units. I could be up 10 + 10 25 unit sessions with that, or 500 units up.
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May 3rd, 2020 at 12:13:26 PM permalink
I once took $30k and turned that in $600k+, and left with it. (Not really a win unless you go home with it!)

Took practically 2 shifts, but all I was doing was flat betting table max with basic strategy.
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May 3rd, 2020 at 7:06:51 PM permalink
I rarely flat bet when I am winning big but I also usually cash out when winning big. I would guess my biggest win was only 40x or 50x at blackjack.

I play with my wife a couple times a year and we usually are only betting $5 on a $100 buy in each. We generally cash out if we are up $200 between us.
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May 3rd, 2020 at 8:34:23 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

up over 75 units in one night flat betting on a live game. Sounds legit.

It’s not that outlandish of a claim. If we assume “all night” means 400 bets, then the expectation is about -3 +/- 23 units. So +75 is 3.4 SD’s out

PS I don’t think flat betting is boring as long as the bet amount is high enough. If I were to flat bet $100 on blackjack I’d be the opposite of bored. I can afford it but I’ve never been much of a high roller
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May 3rd, 2020 at 9:58:40 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

It’s not that outlandish of a claim. If we assume “all night” means 400 bets, then the expectation is about -3 +/- 23 units. So +75 is 3.4 SD’s out

PS I don’t think flat betting is boring as long as the bet amount is high enough. If I were to flat bet $100 on blackjack I’d be the opposite of bored. I can afford it but I’ve never been much of a high roller



+3.4 SD from a guy that never loses at Baccarat is an outlandish claim, like everything else he claimed. He's not around for awhile though, so let's be respectful of the dead.
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May 4th, 2020 at 2:32:34 AM permalink
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We generally cash out if we are up $200 between us.



Breathtaking..
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