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Joelesely
March 20th, 2019 at 8:03:11 PM permalink
Ok.

Go to this page.
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/analyzer/

Fill in the values for your paytable.

The calculator will give you a written strategy. You use that from top to bottom. The first listing will be dealt royal. You hold that. Next 4 to a royal flush. You hold the 4. Etc. You use the highest value that fits the hand.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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March 20th, 2019 at 8:43:31 PM permalink
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I've noticed some online casinos that have Jack's or better with over 100% return calculated using wizzard of ozz calculator. the question is I'm struggling to keep up with optimal strategy because of this. I tried using the strategy analyzer but failed to fully comprehend the chart! In general for Jack's or better I use a personal trainer app that is verified for using optimal strategy on 9/6 Jack's or better 99.54% return. And for some touch ups I can use the wizzard off odds hands calculator and look up some exceptional hands. But when playing Jack's or better online with over 100% payout it's very difficult to grasp the chart since there is no personal trainer with adjusted payouts online. So I'd like advice how to go about this. I'll now list 2 pay tables that I'm having trouble with. JACKS or better table #1 coins based on 1. Pair 1x. 2 pair 2x. 3 of kind 3x. Straight 4x. Flush 10x. Full house 20x. Four of kind 100x. Straight flush 300x. Royal flush 1700x. Jack's or better table #2 based on 1 coin. Pair 1x. 2 pair 2x. 3 of kind 3x. Straight 4x. Flush 6x. Full house 9x. Four of kind 25x. Straight flush 50x. Royal flush 20,000x.



Ok, I'll bite.

I took a look a the 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 20, 100, 300, 1700 pay table. The optimal strategy is just north of 140% RTP. With that kind of edge and because this is play money, I would not recommend sweating optimal strategy. Just play your normal 9/6 strategy, then throw your pile of play money on your bed and roll around in it.

I wish this was real. Enjoy your app.
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March 20th, 2019 at 8:49:42 PM permalink
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Nevertheless what happens if you're not online but in actual casino in vegas and there is a jackpot and it is very high

That's obvious, you call/PM Axel.

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Just learn 8/5 Bonus poker and that should be good enough at this point(you can find that around casinos). Once you learn that there are only a few easy adjustments for all the other common JOB games.

I don't even want to think about the strategy for that 10 coin flush pay machine, 8 coins is hard enough. I have a feeling its going to be all crazy and complicated. Don't bother with that because I'm almost certain you will never find anything close to that situation that has any real value.

I say, forget this funny money casino stuff. There are tons of online casinos that will start you off with free money where you can win and actually get paid once you complete their wagering requirements. There might be a few hoops involved and you will have to read all the T&C's. Some of them will make you make at least one small cash deposit before you can cash out (I think the risk is worth the reward).

Whenever I come across a new(to me) casino that has a good potential deposit bonus, if they have a free bonus I start with that for testing. I have done fairly well on the free bonuses. I did super good on Win-A-Day casino with their free bonus. Many of the bonuses you are forced to play slots, but at least you can win something. Latest Casino Bonuses own this site. Here is a link that might be of help https://lcb.org/bonuses/no-deposit.

If you can make a little cash doing the free bonus stuff then you might want to take a shot at some small low wagering requirement deposit bonuses. I'm not advocating going all hog wild. Make sure it's some juicy +EV situation(you can get some help right here with figuring that out and how to do it yourself) and the site is not a total rip off site.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
prozema
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March 20th, 2019 at 8:59:19 PM permalink
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Ok, I'll bite.

I took a look a the 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 20, 100, 300, 1700 pay table. The optimal strategy is just north of 140% RTP. With that kind of edge and because this is play money, I would not recommend sweating optimal strategy. Just play your normal 9/6 strategy, then throw your pile of play money on your bed and roll around in it.

I wish this was real. Enjoy your app.



Here is the wizards page on using the wrong strategy.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/wrong-strategy/

Bottom line... Significant digits are on you side. It really doesn't matter what strategy you use with a 40% advantage.
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March 20th, 2019 at 9:02:04 PM permalink
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March 20th, 2019 at 9:05:32 PM permalink
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Thanks for all replies

Welcome to the forum. keep us up to date on your progress and let us know whatever you decide.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 20th, 2019 at 9:20:50 PM permalink
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Thanks for your answer. Nevertheless what happens if you're not online but in actual casino in vegas and there is a jackpot and it is very high do you know the correct strategy then? And how high is enough for your strategy to change.



Typically when you change strategies is for the sake of an inflated royal. That just shifts a couple of holds around.

Try this... Take a 7/5 Jack's game and run the strategy with a 800 to 1 royal on the link BBB posted.

Then... Take the same 7/5 Jack's game and change the royal to 2400.

Line up the holds side by side in excel.

Where it gets weird is how much variance you want to take. Big progressives are usually shared across banks and shortening the royal cycle will up the drop until you hit the royal.

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