Reachingthetop
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March 6th, 2018 at 9:34:56 AM permalink
Sunday, March 4,2018

I printed off [Spanish 21 basic strategy when the dealer stands on a soft 17. ] chart and what to do a casino in Falls View Ontario. Following this chart to a T and Cashing out $320 cash into chips I found this strategy not working.

Hitting on 13 when the dealer and having a face card, I received a face card and busted. (I had a gut feeling too way but I didn’t.) Evening receiving a face card and a 7 calls, that I should hit if the dealer has a face card, I did what happened I busted.

I was above $130 but for only for reasons getting 10 or 6 & 5 and doubling down with opportunities arose. But profits did descend as quickly.

The I know if I was too have 17 and the dealer had an ace or a face card the odds of busting are far too great to hit on 17 or even having 16.

I found the following this stand on soft 17 basic strategy card to be against 50% in my favor or the players faver. Finally reaching $100 from my starting wage of 320 entering a table, I mentioned I had enough and I’d
I’ll be here before I lose all my money. I walked away with a balance of $100

I’d don’t think I would advise following this stand on soft 17 basic strategies developed by Michael end of the wizard of oz 100%.

March 6 2018 I’d love to go to the casino, and I would like to have formed strategy card in my favor, but to take another $300 to the casino using this basic strategy card stand on soft-17 playing Spanish 21 I’m not interested in losing more money, especially to a casino.

Maybe the stand on soft 17 and hit on soft 17 might be reversed? I’m not sure…

I did have more luck using the basic strategy know the blackjack diagram.

Surely I do understand when going to a casino and gambling, one-self has chances to lose. But, following these Basic Strategies diagram cards to a "T" and losing well I'd rather just go cold turkey, and base the evening on "Luck".

Anyone out there has an insight?
Mosca
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March 6th, 2018 at 7:15:22 PM permalink
I reply with an analogy:

Last weekend I played Mississippi Stud at Mohegan Sun Pocono Downs. I bought in for $300 and played the Wizard’s point system. I didn’t play the 3 Card bet, and I didn’t play the Progressive.

In the first 10 hands, the community cards held 3 straights, a flush, and two pairs. Was I wrong to not bet that bet?

I had a bad run of cards, but I drew 6-6 and there was a 6 on the board, that got me back to even. Then I got a slew of hands like 8-3 offsuit, and every time I folded that crap the board would pair the 8, or I’d fold 2-4 and the board would be 2-4-8. I folded 9-3 and the board came up 9-9-3.

Was I wrong? All I can tell you is that if you could see through the cards it would be easy. You gotta do what the odds tell you to do, knowing that they are just odds, not certainties. We see the world as certainties, but the future is still nevertheless possibilities.
A falling knife has no handle.
terapined
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March 6th, 2018 at 7:37:50 PM permalink
Perfect strategy in the short run can be frustrating. Last time I was at the El Cortez playing perfect BJ and counting with a real low 5 to 15 spread This low roller blew a 100 bucks in 15 min. Just bad luck. Happens.
Perfect strategy will minimize your losses in the long run. In the short run, luck rules. You got unlucky. Thats all. Happens
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Dalex64
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March 6th, 2018 at 8:08:30 PM permalink
Insight: even with perfect basic strategy, the casino still has the advantage.

It should, however, be the slowest way to lose your money, in the absence of any advantage plays.
boymimbo
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March 6th, 2018 at 10:48:33 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

I reply with an analogy:

Last weekend I played Mississippi Stud at Mohegan Sun Pocono Downs. I bought in for $300 and played the Wizard’s point system. I didn’t play the 3 Card bet, and I didn’t play the Progressive.

In the first 10 hands, the community cards held 3 straights, a flush, and two pairs. Was I wrong to not bet that bet?

I had a bad run of cards, but I drew 6-6 and there was a 6 on the board, that got me back to even. Then I got a slew of hands like 8-3 offsuit, and every time I folded that crap the board would pair the 8, or I’d fold 2-4 and the board would be 2-4-8. I folded 9-3 and the board came up 9-9-3.

Was I wrong? All I can tell you is that if you could see through the cards it would be easy. You gotta do what the odds tell you to do, knowing that they are just odds, not certainties. We see the world as certainties, but the future is still nevertheless possibilities.



Another analogy:

I played Face-up Pai Gow, which offers a Dealer AH side bet. The wizard has this house edge as a sucker bet at 9.29% HA. But during the hour I was there, the dealer got Ace-High pai gow 4 times, and i got dealt an AH with his AH 3 times. I could have won $400!!!!

Michael's strategy must be wrong.

SAMPLE SIZE MATTERS. And Mike's strategy cards have been duplicated mathematically by many a statistics expert.

You said Fallsview. Never mind. They cheat.
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Francisco
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March 7th, 2018 at 4:54:04 PM permalink
Following basic strategy can only make you to lose less. Cannot guarantee you to win.
Remenber that casino’s Sp21 is an - EV game. You can never win, except by AP who can count cards( so they say).
If you are interested, try read The pro’s guide to Spanish 21 by Katarina Walker.
Good luck!
theoriemeister
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March 7th, 2018 at 5:22:48 PM permalink
As a blackjack player, I thought I'd try the game, as it's VERY popular up where I live (WA State). I bought Walker's book and created a basic strategy chart based on her tables. I also included doubling, re-doubling and surrender strategies. I even color-coded it so I could quickly tell what my play was. My casino let me hold it in my lap (but not on the table) and I referred to it often. Still, I lost my bankroll each time ($100, betting $3 minimum), although it took over an hour to lose it.

I went back to straight BJ because the house edge is lower and my basic strategy for the particular game I play is rock solid. And although Walker says that Spanish 21 is countable, the player seems to be at a bigger disadvantage in the game. I mean, do you start with the RC = -10, or do you count it normally and simply wait for a larger positive count (e.g., TC = +4) before you begin to increase your bet? Can someone help us out here?
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