Dantheman
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February 7th, 2018 at 10:01:49 PM permalink
I have tried many different ways of lowering the difference between wins and losses on even money bets such as baccarat and roulette.

Some seem to work a little, others dont.

Is there a bet selection method that will lower the difference between wins and losses over a shoe of baccarat, instead of betting on just banker for the whole shoe?
odiousgambit
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February 8th, 2018 at 2:54:08 AM permalink
Quote: Dantheman

I have tried many different ways of lowering the difference between wins and losses on even money bets such as baccarat and roulette.

Some seem to work a little, others dont.

Is there a bet selection method that will lower the difference between wins and losses over a shoe of baccarat, instead of betting on just banker for the whole shoe?

I am going to assume you might have put this a different way, such as, even though the HE on baccarat is comparatively reasonable, the variance still gets to me. Can I do anything?

Players do want variance in negative expectation, 'the only hope', still it is also true that people want different levels of it, and certainly some forms of betting have too much variance for me. However, you are getting bummed out in a game that has very low variance. There is just no way anyone should want to lower it, by, say, hedging.

You can see in the link that the standard deviation for the player and banker both are less than one. If you are unfamiliar with going by this, just note that nothing listed is lower than that. Note that it's 2.85 for 3 card poker, a game that a lot of people like for low variance.

I suggest a totally different attitude. Instead of grinding it out against the HE, go in for shorter sessions and even make larger wagers - but make your total action less. This will allow the variance that there is to work for you. With large bets you will sometimes win big and sometimes lose big; work on your attitude and get your entertainment out of that.

When you pass the BJ tables, look at the people. Usually what I see is people trying to flat bet a low variance game and there's nothing to see but long faces. That's you too maybe at the bacc table?

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/house-edge/
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mustangsally
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February 8th, 2018 at 11:47:16 AM permalink
Quote: Dantheman

Is there a bet selection method that will lower the difference between wins and losses over a shoe of baccarat, instead of betting on just banker for the whole shoe?

The only one I know of is based on card removal from the shoe
(I have not yet studied card counting a shoe - there is lots of info on that already)
and I must add, this is not my idea I came up with.
Already played by many Bacc teams, I would guess.

and using a calculator
like this one while playing a shoe
https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/calculator/

It takes a lot of work to do it right and I used Excel to help with the
next bet
based on the increase or decrease probability of a B or P win.

This should work (?) with online Baccarat if you know the shoe is not shuffled after every hand of play.
In a casino you would have to use a calculator device and they would not like that, I would guess.

what do you mean about Roulette? that is interesting question, I say.
Sally
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Dantheman
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March 22nd, 2018 at 11:36:11 AM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

The only one I know of is based on card removal from the shoe
(I have not yet studied card counting a shoe - there is lots of info on that already)
and I must add, this is not my idea I came up with.
Already played by many Bacc teams, I would guess.

and using a calculator
like this one while playing a shoe
https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/calculator/

It takes a lot of work to do it right and I used Excel to help with the
next bet
based on the increase or decrease probability of a B or P win.

This should work (?) with online Baccarat if you know the shoe is not shuffled after every hand of play.
In a casino you would have to use a calculator device and they would not like that, I would guess.

what do you mean about Roulette? that is interesting question, I say.
Sally



Thanks Sally!
Sorry for the late reply as I have only just logged back in.
I will have a read through when I get a minute. Sounds quite interesting.
Cheers

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