How I play

Hi, just wanted your opinion on my strategy I use when playing Blackjack. I have been playing for about 10 years and using Jay Moores strategy but it eventually looses. Which they all will without good disipline. I used this new strategy which I developed with a mixture of things I have tried. My low bet is 25 start there play til a win go then to 50 if win back to 25 if win then 50 if win then 75 win 100 win 125, 2 wins of 125 back down 25 at a time until a loss. If you have a loss at the 50 level or above your next bet is 50 if loss 50 if loss 25( in other words 3 straight losses of 50 or more you get back to 25. But if you win one of those 50 bet back to 25 then 50 and 75 ect. When you loose at 25 you always stay there until a win. I play basic strategy. One or two more points a double win or split win or Blackjack at 25 next bet is 50 if at 50 next bet 50 if at 75 or 100 next bet 50 if at 125 next bet 75. And finally after a dealer Blackjack next bet is always 25. I know this is confusing but thats it. I have played it online for free to try it out and with these same unit sizes it has won over 10,000. total with a large loss of 1700. I tried it for the first time at the casino today and started out getting about 250-300 behind left that table +600 next table lost 300 went to lunch came back and won over 400 for a total profit today of 725. If i get ahead 800 or more I cash out all but 200 and keep playing when that's gone that session is over. If you win another 500+ cash out and keep 200 ect. I know there will be losses with this system as with any but it has worked well in my trails. And I know you are a proponent of card counting which I have tried with no success. It is simple if there are more aces and 10s in the deck the dealer also has a greater chance of having a good hand is this not true?

Agreed.

Changing your bet size alone will not alter the house edge. Counting will though.

Stopping at any point is meaningless if you are planning on ever going back

Whatever works and gets the job done.

I've never heard of Jay Moores but found some useful comments in this thread. https://www.blackjackinfo.com/knowledge-base/blackjack-voodoo-strategies/anybody-have-any-thoughts-on-jay-moores-delayed-and-up-betting-strategy/

As it says, if you're just playing basic strategy BJ and varying your bets (using whatever betting system you like) in the long term the House Edge will take its toll. Some betting systems aim for lots of small wins but at a cost of a huge loss sometime. Others, such as pressing during a streak of wins, do the opposite.

I do agree that after a Blackjack resetting your bet to minimum is a good tactic.

When the Trop Express had the video bj machines with dealer, I ran into a guy who would sit at a spot with money in the machine but sit out until a dealer BJ. Then he'd bet $10. If a dealer got two BJs in a row, he'd bet $25. He also refused to play at all with the Polynesian looking male dealer. He claimed he was making money with his system. I don't know about that but he got an awful lot of free liquor. He was a snowbird that spent most of the winter in a camper parked out back.

Every one of those dealers had tells

I am in no way saying this will always work but with good money management it just might. I have tested it with over 10000 hands played on 8 deck which had 44% win 47% loss. Plus you did not answer my last question in my post.

Blackjack is a game of runs good and bad you must take advantage of the good ones and limit losses on the bad. Think about it. If you take out all the number cards from a deck and play with all faces and aces would you have an advantage? No except for blackjacks

If you took out all the number cards- your edge would be absolutely disgusting !!!!!!!!

True but stopping a winner is the goal. Also I should have mentioned when getting a cold table a 600 dollar loss means look for a better table

Only if you figure in 3 to 2 for black jack your odds of getting a good hand are still no better than the dealer. I think your missing my point

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Blackjack is a game of runs good and bad you must take advantage of the good ones and limit losses on the bad. Think about it. If you take out all the number cards from a deck and play with all faces and aces would you have an advantage? No except for blackjacks

So very couple of hands you'd win 1.5 your bet. That's not enough of an advantage for you?

Your still missing the point which is wit a shoe rich in 10s and aces the dealer also has a greater chance of getting a good hand plus you are more apt to bust hard 12-16s sorry to upset you counters

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Your still missing the point which is wit a shoe rich in 10s and aces the dealer also has a greater chance of getting a good hand plus you are more apt to bust hard 12-16s sorry to upset you counters

Wrong. We get paid bonuses that the dealer does not. We also don't have to hit 12-16. The dealer does.

Quote: dwight56

Your still missing the point which is wit a shoe rich in 10s and aces the dealer also has a greater chance of getting a good hand plus you are more apt to bust hard 12-16s sorry to upset you counters

When some of the finest mathematical minds don't get your point, perhaps it is time to ponder the point.
Your assumptions are wrong. Persist in them if you want, but they are wrong. That's not opinion, it's mathematical fact.

Like I said did not mean to upset any counters but if you are going to stand on 12-16 against 7-ace good luck to you. Also are you trying to tell me the dealer does not have the same rich deck from which his cards are coming?

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sorry to upset you counters

LOL

Say there were only Tens, Jacks, Queens, Kings and Aces, then the player would have a good advantage.
The probabilities for either side
(i) 64% time two pictures cards - total 20
(ii) 32% time picture and Ace - total BJ
(iii) 4% start with Ace Ace , then chance are the hand will bust by getting two 10s before six Aces.
You can see (b) (c) (e) the advantage of the player getting BJ (wins 1.5 vs losing 1) and (f) the player knows not to hit totals>12 but the dealer has to.

This is the extreme case, but generally lots of Aces/Pictures are good for the player - for instance doubles, if they occur, are more likely to get 10s or As.

Let me please clarify that I in no way am saying this will work for you. It has just done very well in my testing of over 10000 hands with a win rate of 44% and loss rate of 47%. No doubt I will keep using it at the casino when I get to go which is only 1 or 2 times per month. I will also add that I buy in for 400 if I loose that I try 100 more then move on to another table. My bankroll is 7000 of which I take 2500 to casino. My last question in my original post has not been answered that does not mean I am saying counting does not work apparently it does for some in this forum

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...My last question in my original post has not been answered...

You are just as likely to get the a good starting hand as the dealer, so by and large they cancel out. The only exception is Blackjacks where the player is paid more. It is the other scenarios that matter.

Some sample Plus Points
(i) If the dealer manages to get a bad upcard you can take advantage by splitting or doubling (e.g. you can split 10s) and stand on 12+.
(ii) If you manage to get two low cards then you can double but the dealer can only hit.

Some Bad Points
(i) The bad scenario is where you both would have bust, as you've already lost. The dealer will tend to bust with 2-6 upcards (and you will never bust these at high counts). So say the dealer has upcard of 7 or more, unless you get a good starting hand you will tend to hit all 14s (and some 15s). However the dealer still has to hit all their 16s, so while you have a slight tactical edge, I guess the double-bust probabilities are higher.

So yes both you and the dealer will tend to have more pat hands, but bigger advantages come from the other scenarios.

Also I must say I love playing Blackjack and trying to beat it and experiment with new ways. Counting may work for some and that is good but it certainly has not worked for others. I certainly do not make my living at Blackjack it is just recreation but it's fun when it also makes a little cash. I made my original post for thoughts but apparently most in here are counters and not system players

If that works for you good. Hopefully you have made a lot of money counting maybe I will try it again someday after this system has failed me. Thanks for your in depth explanation good luck to you

Earth to Dwight. What are you on?

10,000 hands is meaningless. Report back after billions and billions of hands.

Just an update had another trip to casino today. Played 1 and a half hour heads up got a call to go back to work so had to leave, I was +505, so good timing I guess. I know all you counters do not like these posts and all systems fail, as will this one sometime but anyway it is fun, especially after trying red 7 and getting my ass knocked off. I do continue to make adjustments to this system if anyone wants to know more about it I will be glad to share.

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Just an update had another trip to casino today. Played 1 and a half hour heads up got a call to go back to work so had to leave, I was +505, so good timing I guess. I know all you counters do not like these posts and all systems fail, as will this one sometime but anyway it is fun, especially after trying red 7 and getting my ass knocked off. I do continue to make adjustments to this system if anyone wants to know more about it I will be glad to share.

Thanks, but No thanks.

Wrong forum.

Systems can be fun, and if it's your thing go for it.

Preaching/ spreading/sharing them is like spreading a virus.

The AIDS virus- like FREDDY (Mercury) has