I desire so much to respond to that post.Quote: EvenBobMarriage is frightening, I see my wife
as little as possible. If absence makes
the heart grow fonder, then closeness
breeds hostility.
I had a whole diatribe laid out.
Then I changed my mind.
I have decided to be kinder, and gentler, and quieter.
I am suspending myself for 24 hours, just to stay out of trouble ;-)
Quote: TwoFeathersATLI desire so much to respond to that post.
I had a whole diatribe laid out.
Then I changed my mind.
I have decided to be kinder, and gentler, and quieter.
I am suspending myself for 24 hours, just to stay out of trouble ;-)
When my brother was in kindergarten, he came home one day, and said a bunch of kids were throwing rocks at the retarded kid. (Err...the mentality impaired kid, now a days.) My mom asked my brother if he threw rocks at the kid. My brother said no. She wasn't going to have any of that, she knew he was a trouble-maker [of sorts] [at least early on, he was, now he's not], and didn't believe him. She called the school, asked if he was taking part in throwing rocks at the kid.....and sure enough -- my brother was already in time out. Although, I don't think he went into time-out on his own to "stay out of trouble".
Quote: EvenBobMarriage is frightening, I see my wife
as little as possible. If absence makes
the heart grow fonder, then closeness
breeds hostility.
I've heard you make other comments along this line. I was hoping it was YOU being negative, as is your nature.
Seems like a horrible life to be so closely tied to and spending time, sharing life with someone you are no longer fond of. Maybe that explains why you are the way you are EB. :/ Anyway, I hope you somehow find happiness in life. I really do.
My partner and I celebrated one year of marriage over the weekend, so I have no idea I guess how the growing apart thing works.
I have a question, EB. You don't have to answer (of course) or can answer in private if you like. If Mrs. EvenBob passed away tomorrow, would you be sad?
Quote: kewljI've heard you make other comments along this line. I was hoping it was YOU being negative, as is your nature.
It's hardly just me. I don't know one single
couple that's been married over 15 years
that's happily married. They may LOOK
ok to the world, but in private they barely
speak. Some make no effort to hide it.
I have 4 sisters in law and none of them
can stand their husbands. My best friend
from HS got married in 1985 and all
they do is fight, that's why I don't see
him anymore. The only happy couples
I know are the young ones who have
been married for a couple years and
have no kids yet.
I know, every couple you know is in
marital bliss, even if they've been
together 25 years. But the stats say
different. One claims divorce is still
around 50%. Of the 50% left married,
about 17% are unhappy, 17% are
neutral, 17% are happy. That means
87% are in not happy marriages.
Other polls indicate that around 70%
of people are in unhappy marriages.
But they stay together for financial
or kid reasons. So don't pooh pooh
me, I'm in the majority. I'm normal.
Quote: jjjooogggI am above average IQ.
Do you have to have an exceptional IQ to beat slots?
What chance do I have to learn to make $10/hr within a couple years?
Slots are both
(a) easier than you might think - you can watch & copy other APs when you know what to look for
(b) harder than you might imagine - you spend very little time playing slots, mostly you are scouting, searching, waiting, negotiating with other APs, etc...
90% of the time you are people-watching, machine-watching, listening to music, walking/driving/flying/etc...
One poker friend tagged along with me one day - she said it wasn't her thing.
She would rather sit i the poker room taking advantage of "fish".
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Here's an example day:
Spent last 20 hrs scouting Las Vegas for the 1st time since 2013.
Turned $1.50 into $1,788 (Theo ~$400).
1) Combination of skill & luck to find $400 worth of stuff.
2) A lot of luck to only need $1.50 to start (hit quad 4s on jacks or better)...and almost make $1,800.
3) Visited 23 casinos: 13 on strip, 10 off strip (or driving into Vegas)
4) How many casinos did I find nothing I wanted to play? 11
5) How many big plays did I find? 0
6) How many medium plays? 1. Must-hit by 500 at 479 (off-strip).
7) So mostly the income was from small plays worth $1-50.
8) How much of the value was from VUX (vulturing UX)? $68.
9) How many plays did I find & decide to play (aside from VUX & testing possible plays)? 9
Only 9 plays in 23 casinos in 20 hrs of walking/driving/eating/people-watching/listening-to-bands.
Is that your cup of tea?
Would you find it boring?
Or would it be a fun "treasure hunt"?
10) I played 9 types of machines...because I played a few "coin-flips" (machines which were not >102%)
- either to earn points & show play, boredom & needing a break from walking, or because I wanted to leave the casino ahead.
Overall in a typical month, i might play 40-60 types of machines (out of 200-300, many of which are semi-extinct).
11) Won at 8 casinos. Lost at 5 casinos. No action at 10 casinos.
Saw a few machines which I thought were semi-extinct.
Played a TV-show machine (2010) for the time since mid-2014.
3 grocery games .... same place as in 2010 when I left Vegas.
Couldn't believe Vegas still has elf game on the strip (unplayable). Only other ones I know are i dinky casinos way off the beaten path.
Two K-D5s (2013) unplayable (one yellow was close). Reno has two left also.
Saw five variations on games I've never seen before.
Saw a new game. Tried $6.50 before quitting.
You most definitely are far from 'normal'. LOL. But in the realm of longer marriage, the people being unhappily married, if your stats are correct and I have no idea if they are, I feel bad for everyone in that situation. Life is just too short to be stuck in an unhappy situation.
Quote: kewljBut in the realm of longer marriage, the people being unhappily married, if your stats are correct and I have no idea if they are, I feel bad for everyone.
I'm not defensive, I just get tired of
people who have the 'whats wrong
with you attitude'. Nothing, I'm in
the normal range. The stats are
correct, you never heard that half
of all marriages end in divorce?
I'm not unhappy, I don't live with
my wife, we have separate houses.
This is getting more and more
common. Twice as many couples
live apart today than 20 years ago.
My insurance agent says it's very
common now, he see's it all the
time.
Just sayin'.
Aristotle must be rolling in his grave, if he has one, after such a misquote. I would love to expound on his unique philosophy of friendship in the sense that it's not logically additive/subtractive in the first place, but I will gladly resist.
Quote: TheGrimReaper13EB, you essentially stated that if you're there in love (or marriage), then you're not there in love; and versa. This is damned if do, damned if don't stuff. Heavy duty neurosis which can have nothing to do with anyone else. A perception of the world by way of a sort of deduction.
.
I read this 3 times and have no idea what it
means. I doubt if it means anything.
Quote: EvenBobIt's hardly just me. I don't know one single
couple that's been married over 15 years
that's happily married. They may LOOK
ok to the world, but in private they barely
speak. Some make no effort to hide it.
I have 4 sisters in law and none of them
can stand their husbands. My best friend
from HS got married in 1985 and all
they do is fight, that's why I don't see
him anymore. The only happy couples
I know are the young ones who have
been married for a couple years and
have no kids yet.
I know, every couple you know is in
marital bliss, even if they've been
together 25 years. But the stats say
different. One claims divorce is still
around 50%. Of the 50% left married,
about 17% are unhappy, 17% are
neutral, 17% are happy. That means
87% are in not happy marriages.
Other polls indicate that around 70%
of people are in unhappy marriages.
But they stay together for financial
or kid reasons. So don't pooh pooh
me, I'm in the majority. I'm normal.
A friend of mine told me the other day that of all the couples he's known in the past 30+ years of marriage, the ones that most often don't work out are the ones that seem so good from the outside. Some couples keep their differences and dislikes so buried under a loving exterior that when things finally do come to a head the relationship is over.
I have a hard time really believing though that your relationship with your wife is as unfulfilling as you say. I think you're just being a little overly crusty.
Quote: EvenBobI read this 3 times and have no idea what it
means. I doubt if it means anything.
I think it means GJ pegged it yesterday.
And I didn't understand it either ;-)
Quote: EvenBobAbsolutely. Unibomber loner types. I've never
met anybody from a forum and never will.
No +EV in it at all.
And...that is often an incorrect statement. Plenty of +EV in meeting Axelwolf, for example, should you or anyone else have the opportunity. I could name others, but won't, since Axelwolf occasionally posts when he is looking for, 'Employees,' I should imagine he won't mind being mentioned.
Quote: Mission146Plenty of +EV in meeting Axelwolf,.
For you, not for me. Leave it at that..
Quote: EvenBobFor you, not for me. Leave it at that..
For either of us, I don't think he'd make you teach him how you play Roulette.
Quote: Mission146For either of us,
I don't have even the vaguest interest
in what he does.
you are probably unhappy in that situation.
rodney dangerfield
Quote: EvenBobI'm perfectly happy with virtual friendships.
My best friend right now is an Iowa farmer
I met on another forum about 4 years ago.
We're close to the same age, have the same
interests and opinions, we email many times
a day. We see no reason to ever meet, why
would we. One on one is a totally different
thing, it's way over rated.
Keep it that way. Trying to make real friends on the internet is amazingly unfruitful.
Quote: odiousgambitTrying to make real friends on the internet is amazingly unfruitful.
Totally disagree. In fact, some of the best
friendships years ago were pen pal
relationships. People who never met
conversing by mail. Today we do it by
email. It's easier to make a friend this
way, you converse when it's convenient.
I find it more satisfying then any face
to face friendship I've had in the last
25 years.
Quote: AxelWolfI ave no clue what happens when you get older. Maybe some people are not happy no matter what . I'm still fairly young and my girl is over 10 years younger than me. I would guess there's many married guys who desire a girl who is much younger, so if you are 60 and your wife is in her 60's as well, perhaps you are not to happy. Especially with someone in her 60's when your dreaming of Eva Longoria but you are married to some old hag.
you are probably unhappy in that situation.
Stunning misogyny at it's worst. Does your
GF have a name or do you just call her '10'.
If that's all a relationship is to you, how a
woman looks, you're in for some rude
awakenings as you age.
Quote: odiousgambitKeep it that way. Trying to make real friends on the internet is amazingly unfruitful.
I met my wife playing World of Warcraft and followed the relationship into facebook after i stopped playing. We knew eachother " " 2 years before i flew her out to meet and bam now we are married almost 6 years with a 3 yr old.
Edit : Neither of us are overweight or unattractive **
B79 comes to mind especially with his crank calling and pretrnding to be other people BS antics.
But she is a very nice person.
Just kidding actually do not know her name but did run into them once and she was very kind
Quote: Wizardofnothing[edited]. Had to remove axels girls name
But she is a very nice person.
Just kidding actually do not know her name but did run into them once and she was very kind
Axel's GF is super cute, and super nice, and super nice to Axel! They really seem to match well. I'm sure when there is some playerscard advantage reason they will get married....
Quote:Axel's GF is super cute, and super nice, and super nice to Axel! They really seem to match well. I'm sure when there is some playerscard advantage reason they will get married....
Keep in mind the wisdom of the old adage: "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"
Quote: MrVKeep in mind the wisdom of the old adage: "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"
Can I make a living thru gambling? Was that the thread title?
It went this away, and then that away.
Now I want to meet Axel's GF. It would prolly be cool to meet Axel too...
Quote: AxelWolfOf course she has a name but I don't see any good reason to mention it publicly.
Nor was I suggesting you do. It was sarcasm
because all that seems to matter to you is
how a woman looks and that she is way
younger than you.
Quote: SOOPOO
Axel's GF is super cute, and super nice, and super nice to Axel! .
You rarely see girlfriends that aren't pretty
good to their boyfriends, they don't stay
girlfriends for long if they aren't. And the
guy sure a hell won't marry them, unless
he's a masochist.
Quote: EvenBobNor was I suggesting you do. It was sarcasm
because all that seems to matter to you is
how a woman looks and that she is way
younger than you.
I suggest you re-read his post. He was talking about other guys (might be misogynistic). But what is it to you? You'll keep twisting around words so you can attack people.
Axel seems to be in a good relationship. You're clearly in a poor relationship with your wife. Keep telling yourself it's okay.....we don't care.
I don't know where or how you came up with all of that from what I said.Quote: EvenBobNor was I suggesting you do. It was sarcasm
because all that seems to matter to you is
how a woman looks and that she is way
younger than you.
I think you misunderstand what I'm trying to say.
It doesn't really matter, some people are always happy, some people are never happy and everything in between.
You sound as if you're unhappy with your wife. Perhaps that happens as you get older, I have no clue.
Quote: AxelWolfI don't know where or how you came up with all of that from what I said.
.
First you brag that your GF is more than
10 years younger than you, meaning that's
very important or you wouldn't have
mentioned it. Then you go on to guess
that older men also desire younger women
and are unhappy with the 'old hag' they're
married to. You look at women as 'things',
there is no other way to interpret it.
Quote: EvenBobFirst you brag that your GF is more than
10 years younger than you, meaning that's
very important or you wouldn't have
mentioned it. Then you go on to guess
that older men also desire younger women
and are unhappy with the 'old hag' they're
married to. You look at women as 'things',
there is no other way to interpret it.
You are bad at interpreting.
Quote: RSYou are bad at interpreting.
I didn't interpret. What he said was obvious
to anybody who can read. The only people
who talk like that are men who objectify
women.
Quote: EvenBobI didn't interpret. What he said was obvious
to anybody who can read. The only people
who talk like that are men who objectify
women.
I'm not sure, either way, whether 'objectify' is a legitimate Scrabble word.
I do think, (please remember I am insane which is not the same as worthless) that the whole crew here should plan an event around EB, track him down, drag him out, and buy him a beer. If we all do that, and he he drinks all the beers, we will get a new perspective if he is honest, which I believe he is.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLthe whole crew here should plan an event around EB, track him down, drag him out, and buy him a beer. If we all do that, and he he drinks all the beers, we will get a new perspective if he is honest, which I believe he is.
EB drinks Vodka not beer. If you are looking for that liquor inspired perspective from him, just read his posts from the later part of most days. :)
I am all for people doing whatever makes them happy as long as they aren't harming anyone else and that most certainly goes for relationships. If EvenBob and Mrs EvenBob are happy in their marriage and living arrangements, god bless them.
I do have a little problem with EB's comment that it is 'normal' and becoming very common. No married people that I know maintain separate residences. Frankly few can afford that type of thing. If that is working for Mr and Mrs EvenBob, that's kewl, but don't try to sell us that this is the new 'normal'.
Quote: kewlj
I do have a little problem with EB's comment that it is 'normal' and becoming very common. .
Look it up. Twice as many couples are doing
it than just 15 years ago. My insurance agent
says he sees it all the time, very common.
Some of them live in different cities. My
wifes boss lives in Grand Rapids and his wife
lives in Detroit. They see each other on
weekends.
This crap about having to be happy is insane.
It's an after WWII thing. If you asked an
average person in 1900 to rate the happiness
of his marriage, he'd think you were nuts.
You got by as well as you could, being happy
didn't enter into it.
EB, the couple where one lives in Grand Rapids and the other in Detroit....do you think they're living in separate households because they'd rather live like that? Or perhaps is it that they used to live together, one got a job somewhere else, and they are temporarily living in separate households, but plan to live together in the (near) future?
Just because it's happening 2x as much now than years ago doesn't mean it's "common". If 1% of married couple lived in a separate house years ago and now 2% live in a separate house....that doesn't mean it's common.
Not sure what your insurance person is telling you. Wait....why does your insurance person....oh never mind.
Perhaps it's becoming slightly more common....but that doesn't make it normal.
Quote: EvenBobthere is no other way to interpret it.
Quote: EvenBobI didn't interpret.
Mmmkay...
So much for the intrinsic value of/ need for marriage, at least in the minds of young people today.
This isn't 115 years ago when most people worked on a farm, or lived in a large city in very crowded conditions.
Now we basically have it real easy.
So we look for the "easy" way.
No spouse + kid{s} = modern mother.
Not advocating, just sayin'.
Quote: RS
Perhaps it's becoming slightly more common....but that doesn't make it normal.
It's normal for the millions of couples doing
it. Can't tell you the number of married men
who've said to me, 'wish I could get that deal.'
It's pretty sweet, don't knock it till you've tried
it.
I have no idea what my wife is doing most of
the time, and don't care. And vice versa. I
never ask and neither does she. It's a perfect
arrangement. You have no idea what you're
missing.
Quote: kewljIn my mind, marriage is sharing your life with another person, the good, the bad and the ugly.
No offense, but you're very young still.
You'll be amazed in 30 years, looking
back, at how naive you were. Happens
to all of us.
Quote: EvenBobTotally disagree. In fact, some of the best
friendships years ago were pen pal
relationships. People who never met
conversing by mail. Today we do it by
email. It's easier to make a friend this
way, you converse when it's convenient.
I find it more satisfying then any face
to face friendship I've had in the last
25 years.
What I mean is any attempt to change a internet 'pen pal' relationship into a different [more traditional] kind of friendship is disappointing in my experience. Even if you don't try to go as far as meeting face to face.
I have been quite stunned a few times. I will say my experience with WOV has been better. Some people still talk to me LOL.
Once constant for me in my life is that I do not see myself the way other people see me. So I really stumble along in all regards, not just the internet. My experience being different than someone else's is not surprising.
If we keep winning money with you at craps, we would enjoy continuing to talk to you :).Quote: odiousgambitI have been quite stunned a few times. I will say my experience with WOV has been better. Some people still talk to me LOL.
Speaking of which, are we doing a WoVCon fall meetup at a casino around WV/OH/PA/MD/VA/NC? I haven't played in a while -- I'm due for a big roll.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm still fairly young and my girl is over 10 years younger than me.
So how did you 'snag' a younger girl? Big penis? (I am not asking if you HAVE a big penis, I am asking if you act like a big penis) Lol.
I actually pictured you as a middle aged frat-boy type. Too much beer. Too much pizza. No steady girl. Kind of where a 'relationship' lasted an hour or two. LOL
Quote: EvenBobI have no idea what my wife is doing most of
the time, and don't care. And vice versa. I
never ask and neither does she. It's a perfect
arrangement. You have no idea what you're
missing.
Glad it's working for you.
My wife and I tried this for a while in the same house, then in different houses.
We're now divorced and much happier.