How bad are these Blackjack rules??

Hi Wizard, many thanks for your site. Very very very useful.

This is my first post here, and my first question.

Could you please tell me what do you think about these Blackjack rules?? What is the house edge?? Thanks very much.

Our Blackjack follows the standard “Las Vegas Strip” rules, with the following exceptions:

There are five main betting positions.
If your first two dealt cards have the same value, you can only choose to split your hand or fold and exit the game round. (WHAAATTT??)
Split hands cannot be split.
Only one additional card is drawn for the player who split aces.
Double after splitting is allowed.
The dealer stands on 17 (including soft 17)
The dealer will not check for Blackjack in any case.
If you double and the dealer's first card is of value 11 (ACE), and the dealer gets Blackjack, you lose both your bets.
If the dealer’s first card is of value 10, and the dealer gets Blackjack, half of your main bet will be returned to you.

If I split 7-7, then get another 7, do I auto lose since I can't re-split (and only other option is to fold)? Wouldn't seem so, just curious. What about pair of face cards? They gotta match in order to be a "pair"?

You always get half your main bet back with a dealer BJ when T is showing? Or you saying you only lose your original wager (and not doubles or splits) when dealer has a T-showing-BJ?


But yeah, first rule is f******* awful to the player. I'd be surprised if this game had a HE below 4%.

Thanks for your answer RS.

I don't know, man. I wonder pretty much the same.
I just copied and pasted what they tell you as a standard answer. No further explanation is given.

Split or fold is unheard of, I think.

Quote: BJ2

Thanks for your answer RS.

I don't know, man. I wonder pretty much the same.
I just copied and pasted what they tell you as a standard answer. No further explanation is given.

Split or fold is unheard of, I think.

so if i get 2 10's i have to fold? just ridiculous.

where exactly is this game found?

Ok, I got the rest of the information about the pairs, now it is better explained.
YOU MUST SPLIT ONLY ACCORDING TO BS. NO OTHER PAIRS ARE SPLITTED. YOU SPLIT OR FOLD, YOU CAN NOT HIT, (IF YOU FOLD, THEY CHARGE YOU 20% OF YOUR BET).
READ BELOW FOR FURTHER EXPLANATION.

Please after reading this, let me know what you think about the whole bunch of rules. How bad/good is it. Thanks.

Split
Based on Optimal Strategy Table, only certain pair combinations automatically activate a split situation. In the split situation you only have the option to Split or Fold. If you do not want to spilt, click Fold. Your bet will be returned to you minus 20% and you will be out of the game round. If you choose to Split, an additional bet amount is taken from your balance and your bet is doubled. You will then be dealt an extra card for each split card and will have the option to Hit, Stand or Double for each new hand. If you split two aces, you receive only one additional card for each ace. If you receive an ace and a ten-value card in a split hand, it is considered 21 and not Blackjack (!!!!!) . In this case the payout is 1:1, not 1:1.5.

Note that split aces only receive one card.

Double
If, after you are dealt your first two cards, you think that the third card will allow you to beat the dealer’s hand, you can double your bet. The bet amount becomes twice the original (with the difference taken out of your balance), and you are dealt one more card.

Insurance
If the dealer shows an Ace in his initial hand, you are given a chance to insure your bet against him having Blackjack. If you get Insurance, an amount equal to half your original bet is placed separately on the table. If the dealer does have Blackjack, you are paid 2 to 1 on your insurance. This way you do not lose your original bet (because you get the 2x half your original bet, plus the insurance amount back). If the dealer does not have Blackjack, you lose the insurance amount, even if you end up losing.

10 Card Charlie
It is theoretically possible to have 10 cards dealt to you without going bust. In this case your hand automatically wins, except when the dealer has Blackjack.

Winnings

Main Game Payout

Pays

Winning Hand

1 to 1

Insurance

2 to 1

Blackjack

3 to 2

Split Fold

20% of main bet is not returned

Quote: BJ2

Split
Based on Optimal Strategy Table, only certain pair combinations automatically activate a split situation. In the split situation you only have the option to Split or Fold. If you do not want to spilt, click Fold. Your bet will be returned to you minus 20% and you will be out of the game round. If you choose to Split, an additional bet amount is taken from your balance and your bet is doubled. You will then be dealt an extra card for each split card and will have the option to Hit, Stand or Double for each new hand. If you split two aces, you receive only one additional card for each ace. If you receive an ace and a ten-value card in a split hand, it is considered 21 and not Blackjack (!!!!!) . In this case the payout is 1:1, not 1:1.5.

Note that split aces only receive one card.

It is hard to tell until some real numbers are given, but if it is really based on "Optimal Strategy Table" then it maybe good in certain cases.
Imagine 8+8 vs 10, its bad either to split or to hit. but you can now fold (surrender) and lose only 20%.

Yes Andysif, that is true, with many pairs you can fold and save money.
Thanks for your input.

Can you "fold" any hand? If so, that allows you a 20% surrender option, which probably makes surrendering a better play for a number of hands.