FleaStiff
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March 23rd, 2015 at 12:52:18 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I was playing poker

Separate room; separate card control, separate policies, separate cards than the "real casino" has. Poker room: anything that is rejected by a machine or gets oh, what was that phrase: bent, spindled, whatever is individually replaces as play continues.

Floor might fan the deck to see if any spots move but usually its an individual card, not a marked deck. Players get frustrated and everyone at the table has picked up on a crimped card by the time someone speaks up.


In the "real casino"... no begging and borrowing at all, ever. The entire deck is either in play or its plastic bagied and signed twice..
Casino card decks are usually different manufacturers than poker room card decks. Different storage and handling rules. Floor will definitely fan a deck to look in upper corners for moving spots, but entire deck is kept together and no substitutions permitted.
AxelWolf
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March 23rd, 2015 at 3:01:44 PM permalink
Don't most poker rooms use kem card's? I believe they are in the $30 range per deck I'm sure it varies especially if you buy them in bulk. That's the number one reason to just replace a messed up card.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 23rd, 2015 at 3:47:38 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Don't most poker rooms use kem card's? I believe they are in the $30 range per deck I'm sure it varies especially if you buy them in bulk. That's the number one reason to just replace a messed up card.



I said cost isn't the reason, but I had no idea they could cosy that much. I figured a fee bucks at most. If they really do cost 30 then that may be a reason.
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Deucekies
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March 23rd, 2015 at 4:11:32 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I said cost isn't the reason, but I had no idea they could cosy that much. I figured a fee bucks at most. If they really do cost 30 then that may be a reason.


I would have to think they get them a little cheaper than that if they are bought in bulk. If not, holy cow.
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AZDuffman
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March 23rd, 2015 at 4:15:19 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I said cost isn't the reason, but I had no idea they could cosy that much. I figured a fee bucks at most. If they really do cost 30 then that may be a reason.



Just looked at their site. $30 for a deck of cards? That is insane.

In other news, thanks for all the replies. I had no idea this was normal nor that a deck could cost that much.
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AxelWolf
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March 23rd, 2015 at 6:17:53 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

I would have to think they get them a little cheaper than that if they are bought in bulk. If not, holy cow.

I would assume so, but even at half that, it's expensive. Next time you play poker take a second and notice the quality.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Ayecarumba
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March 23rd, 2015 at 6:20:55 PM permalink
I have seen off shift dealers sitting at empty tables sorting through boxes of cards to make good "sets". I think the house puts these "Frankenstein" decks back into play to save money.
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SanchoPanza
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March 23rd, 2015 at 6:28:13 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I believe they are in the $30 range per deck

Gotta cover those legal and penalty costs for all the lawsuits over screwed-up packages of playing cards. Right, Golden Nugget?
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March 23rd, 2015 at 6:55:14 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Gotta cover those legal and penalty costs for all the lawsuits over screwed-up packages of playing cards. Right, Golden Nugget?

I not sure how edge sortable kem's are, they are normally surrounded by a border. but I'm sure anything can be off center. It makes me wonder if a few sharp poker players have noticed marked cards during play, obviously you couldn't see something valuable each time, but even knowing 1 card in key hands with a neighbor could be significant, you know they don't or do have x.
Add in legitimate skill and you have a deadly combination.
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DrawingDead
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March 23rd, 2015 at 6:59:36 PM permalink
Well, yeah. This is news? That is exactly what is done. And they are not "off shift" when doing that. They are very on shift when they are there working as a 'brush' or sitting at a 'dead spread' or performing other tasks while hoping for another game to start. Is there supposed to be something wrong with this? What in the world is "Frankenstein" about it? Does someone want them to throw out a deck whenever any of them gets dented? Why, for cryin' out loud? There is no sensible reason to do so, it would not benefit anybody, which is why nobody does.
Quote: Ayecarumba

I have seen off shift dealers sitting at empty tables sorting through boxes of cards to make good "sets". I think the house puts these "Frankenstein" decks back into play to save money.



KEM is not the only brand commonly in use, by the way. You'll see Copag is also used a lot.
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