This looks very interesting, if not a bit scary (Re: AI).

If a NO-LIMIT version of that existed, this would create an opportunity for a simple math based short-stacking & rat-holing approach, eliminating all post-flop implied odds because you can buy-in very short, cash-out, and re-buy as a "new" player as much as you like. From investigation of this HU-LHE machine for a thread with some folks on a poker-oriented discussion site, I believe the machine plays very close to game theory optimal, and is a very difficult opponent by really "playing poker" with a conventional sized buy-in allowing for multi-street play. I confirmed to my own satisfaction statistically (after some attempts to look at it mathematically) that doing this short-buy on the limit HU machines produced very close to break-even results, but doing the same in a NLHE structure would be very different, and worth investigating whether it would be possibly profitable.

Quote:AsswhoopermcdaddyCan anyone comment on what optimal strategy is supposed to be for the no limit holden video poker machine?

uhhhh.... mixed-strategy nash equilibrium?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_strategy#Mixed_strategy

I was thinking the same thing. I don't think they can make a (legal) good enough NL machine.Quote:DrawingDeadAre you sure this isn't the LIMIT hold 'em head-up game?

Quote:DrawingDeadIf a NO-LIMIT version of that existed, this would create an opportunity for a simple math based short-stacking & rat-holing approach, eliminating all post-flop implied odds because you can buy-in very short, cash-out, and re-buy as a "new" player as much as you like. From investigation of this HU-LHE machine for a thread with some folks on a poker-oriented discussion site, I believe the machine plays very close to game theory optimal, and is a very difficult opponent by really "playing poker" with a conventional sized buy-in allowing for multi-street play. I confirmed to my own satisfaction statistically (after some attempts to look at it mathematically) that doing this short-buy on the limit HU machines produced very close to break-even results, but doing the same in a NLHE structure would be very different, and worth investigating whether it would be possibly profitable.

There is no mathematical advantage to being short-stacked in heads-up play. Heads-up, both stacks are essentially of equal size. Being short-stacked only confers a mathematical advantage in games with 3 or more players.

Quote:AsswhoopermcdaddyIf I remember correctly it was indeed limit, but I noticed that the reraises increased progressively so it felt like no limit......so optimal strategy is to buy in with a low stack?

The term "no limit" refers to being able to bet as much as you want on a single bet, not on the cap (or lack thereof) of the number of bets on a betting round.

If you don't know this, I'm guessing that poker is not your game, so I'd suggest staying away from these machines.