RRS wheels........cheating ??

Now I know the Wizard has done consultancy work for several online casinos. I don't want to create a conflict of interest, however I would like to ask him in particular what he thinks of the use of RRS (Random Rotor Speed) wheels both online and offline ????

What do the rest of you think ?

Let me educate you.......I'm a real roulette dealer who recently lost a fair amount of money playing roulette online with a well known European online provider.......I later found out that the wheels they use actually have a motor in them which controls the speed of the wheel........NOT THE SO CALLED LIVE DEALER !!!

This is meant to be live...........but is to all intents is a RNG with a live monkey sitting there to give the impression of being live.....the casino controls the speed of the wheel.

Now the live providers go to a great deal NOT to tell anyone about these wheels. They can say what they like....it's a game of chance blah blah blah..We just make sure the ball can land anywhere.......Who's to say that if there is a player playing particularly high stakes that they can speed up or slow down the wheel to avoid numbers.

I FELL CHEATED !!!.........and I want to go to the media with this.



Casino Regulatory Authority of Singapore

3.3 The cylinder shall be constructed and designed to rotate and move freely of its own accord but all affixed parts of the roulette wheel must be secure and free from movement.

Do the rules of Singapore actually apply to this European online provider? There's half a world between those two places!

You chose an untrustworthy site and now you wish to complain?
Would you be complaining if you had won at this untrustworthy site?

I don't know anything about these devices, but if there's a motor controlling the rotor and it can alter the speed of spin, then you could theoretically use a high speed camera and orbital decay calculations to evaluate where the ball would come to rest (within a few numbers) and adjust the speed of the spin as desired. I'm not saying this is happening, but it would be possible to do. Basically like applying Eudaemonic Pie from the house's perspective instead of the player's.

Quote: MathExtremist

I don't know anything about these devices, but if there's a motor controlling the rotor

There's no 'if' involved.

"Slingshot 2 combines random rotor and ball speed at launch with Cammegh's unique ARC (Active Rotor Control) system which after 'no more bets', imperceptibly changes the rotor to a new random speed."

This is to defeat VB players, but it can also be used
to alter the result of the game.

http://www.roulette-i.com/slingshot-2-automated-roulette-wheel-launched.html

Yes there is half a world between those two places........get a grip !!

So what you are trying to say ?...........the fact that there is a big distance between jurisdictions that this should make a difference to fairness ?

So i'f we're going to play live online roulette play on a live site that is based in Singapore ??????...........that way the wheels are not bent ?

FLEA'STIFF.......Do you work for the online providers ???

You get a grip as well..........can you actually manage to tell me anything about the providers ?

Example............Can you tell me a company that don't use these wheels ?

If I have won fair enough..........but the fact is I didn't !! and the wheel speed was controlled by the casino............CHEATING !!!

Hi Math,

To true !.........so far the most intelligent reply to my post I have yet read.

Thank you

Well Bob,

Your's is the second post that makes most sense.

What would happen "anywhere in the world" rdw............if after the ball was spinning if the dealer was to put their hand in the wheel and the change the speed................can anybody tell me what the casinos are doing is different ???

Quote: mattowen69

........get a grip !!

I would suggest that it is in fact you that should reconsider how you're replying. And perhaps while you're at it spend some time learning about this forum's particular culture, as you're running seriously afoul of the acceptable norms.

I have a question for you though: if you deal roulette why on earth would you play roulette?