24Bingo
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July 10th, 2012 at 10:41:57 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

All bad beat bets are horrible. I mean especially if you are an active player. Not some rock of ages. The loosest players contribute the majority to any bad beat jackpot. Those $2 bad beat rakes can pull an easy $100 an hour of the table. Money that I can not win back from the other players.



Isn't the bad beat in most casinos 0 EV, though? I suppose you could look at it as penalizing loose (sorry, "active") play, since you'll be candidate for more qualifying pots and few to no more qualifying hands, but the game itself does a decent job of penalizing loose play... it's certainly not "the worst bet in the casino." Especially if you know when to fold 'em in the first place.
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konceptum
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July 10th, 2012 at 10:57:36 AM permalink
I despise the bad beat jackpots. Not only because of the extra rake used to fund it, but mainly because of the bad plays it encourages. When I have a great hand, which gets revealed at a showdown, and someone says to me, "You shouldn't have been betting. Hoped someone stayed in and caught four of a kind (or whatever)," I respond with, "No. That's stupid. I'm here to win your money. Not hope that someone backs their stupid butt into a bad beat."
rudeboyoi
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July 10th, 2012 at 11:16:49 AM permalink
$3+$1 is great. $4+$1 is bearable. $4+$2 and $5+$1 is horrible.
buzzpaff
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July 10th, 2012 at 11:57:38 AM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo

Isn't the bad beat in most casinos 0 EV, though? I suppose you could look at it as penalizing loose (sorry, "active") play, since you'll be candidate for more qualifying pots and few to no more qualifying hands, but the game itself does a decent job of penalizing loose play... it's certainly not "the worst bet in the casino." Especially if you know when to fold 'em in the first place.




I beg to differ. It is a bet I am forced to make. yes, I do know how to play poker. Bad enough the rake removes money from the table I might have a chance of winning, but it takes an additional $60-$100 off the table each hour. Yes, most of this comes from loose players and calling station. Just the kind of fish I do not want running out of money. I am not a math guy, but even aces full being beat , with 2 cards in each hand , is a really long shot. Some places have Quads being beat.

Worse yet are the rocks who not only sit there, but always eat lunch or dinner for 45 minutes to an hour, just to remain in the bad beat jackpot. There is no worse bet in the house than the bad bet jackpots. PERIOD .
DJTeddyBear
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July 10th, 2012 at 11:59:40 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Worse yet ... always eat lunch or dinner for 45 minutes to an hour, just to remain in....

Are you saying you would prefer that the seat be empty, but locked up for that length of time?
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buzzpaff
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July 10th, 2012 at 12:08:48 PM permalink
No. I am saying Rocks are bottom feeder. Easy to beat in the long run, hard to beat in the short run. Hard to get any real action out of them. But they drag lunch or dinner to absolute maximum allowed. Because in many casino it only causes you a missed blind button to be active for bad beat jackpots while you are away from the table.

This one retired couple , both formerly school teachers, will never play at a table I am at. I raise their blinds every time. Small blinds and big blinds. They don't get to see free hands while I am around LOL. She is a ROCK, he is the biggest rock ( and dumb ) you will ever see. He will call with ACES preflop and wait to see the flop before doing any raising. Of course the guy will 3 6, 10, flops two pair and kills him. LOL
24Bingo
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July 10th, 2012 at 4:41:25 PM permalink
...you don't have a clue what you're doing. Stop blaming the rake.

(Although yeah, limping with aces is stupid.)
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Nareed
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July 10th, 2012 at 4:46:49 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

There is no worse bet in the house than the bad bet jackpots. PERIOD .



Keno? 70%+ HE in some places?
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98Clubs
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July 10th, 2012 at 5:15:59 PM permalink
Whatever the rake was round up to $.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
buzzpaff
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July 10th, 2012 at 5:52:40 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Keno? 70%+ HE in some places?



I would much rather put my $2 on a keno card than in a bad beat jackpot any day.

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