Latest cheating boyfriend question
"hi i m in a relation for last 10 mnths & now i m gettin 2 know dat he is cheatin on me but whether its true or false is a ? so i m soo tensed raly cant understand so pls help me"
Is this a joke, or are the youth of America really this illiterate? I just had to share this, the pain is too much for one person to bear alone.
Dat raly does not explain everything, though.
We feel your pain. But I think it's not limited to the youth. Americans, as a whole, are illiterate.Quote: WizardIs this a joke, or are the youth of America really this illiterate? I just had to share this, the pain is too much for one person to bear alone.
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When I first started to be a DJ, about 28 years ago, I was asked by another DJ if a High School diploma is important for a DJ. I said no, but asked him if he thought he was still going to be doing Bar Mitzvahs and school dances when he was 50. I also asked him if had plans to become a radio DJ, and if he thought he could make that jump without one.
Some months later, we were doing an event together, with his gear and music. He sorted his records in an unusual way - by the color of the jacket.
Although I only worked at that company a little over one year, it was about 15 or 20 years later that I thought about those two things and realized that he couldn't read.
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Fortunately, it seems that, outside of the relationship questions, the literacy and grammar level on this board is fairly high. Very high if you discount typos.
The literacy and grammar levels on some other message boards is low enough that it's hard to tell the difference between typos and cluelessness.
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The person who wrote the email is typical. She obviously knows there should be an apostrophe in "I'm" but can't be bothered to find it, so she puts in a space instead. How about some simple punctuation? She figured out how to find the ampersand and question mark, but no periods?
Oh, sure, you can excuse some of it as "cell phone shortcuts." But if you excuse ALL of it as cell phone conditioning, I still can't figure out what she's saying. I mean, OK, she's in this relationship for 10 months, and is getting a clue that he's cheating. That's the question. OK. I get that part. But she'd "tensed"? Tensed about what? And really can't understand... What is it that she can't understand? That she's too stupid for any guy to want to have a serious relationship with?
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You know what? I'd be willing to bet real money, and give odds, that if you ask this dumb girl what an "ampersand" is, she'll respond "Wat...?"
Generalization alert:
Some folks say women don't want answers, just sympathy. If you respond to what seems like a request to help by trying to solve her problem, she resents that you seem to be trying to take control. She just wanted to talk about it! I have adopted this for the most part in dealing with females and have to say it has worked for me. In spite of the male instinct to try to solve that problem, just talk, don't offer solutions.
This seems to be such a case, surely she realizes she hasn't given enough information to really try to answer the question, illiterate or not.
Quote: odiousgambitSome folks say women don't want answers, just sympathy.
Some. Perhaps even most. I know that when I want advice I ask for it. I also know I expect sympathy, too.
What I don't like is when I'm telling someone what happened and they reply with "You should have done this or that." Often I did just that, and more, but I don't always feel like detailing everything. In such cases I am looking for sympathy, not advice, and what I resent is what feels like an attempt to make me feel sfoolish or unprepared for not having done something.
Quote:This seems to be such a case, surely she realizes she hasn't given enough information to really try to answer the question, illiterate or not.
In this case I dont' think there's enough comprehensible information to even know what's going on. To guess, yes. To know, no.
She is obviously getting comments from friends about his cheating but does not want to admit to herself that the friends are indeed probably quite reliable she just wants to talk and talk about it rather than come to the inevitable conclusion that after ten months he is tired of her and has been getting it elsewhere recently and probably getting it elsewhere all along.
Pretty clear he is not very special to her anyway, she just doesn't like being cheated on. It never changes.
Quote: 7outlineawayNothing about having to resign his House seat?
this WAS FUNNY.
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Quote: Wizard
"hi i m in a relation for last 10 mnths & now i m gettin 2 know dat he is cheatin on me but whether its true or false is a ? so i m soo tensed raly cant understand so pls help me"
Is this a joke, or are the youth of America really this illiterate? I just had to share this, the pain is too much for one person to bear alone.
This is the inevitable result of a socialized education system.
Quote: bigfoot66This is the inevitable result of a socialized education system.
May I assume you are also against Ebonics as our national language ?? LOL
Quote: WizardIs this a joke, or are the youth of America really this illiterate? I just had to share this, the pain is too much for one person to bear alone.
FWIW whenever I think something someone say is a joke because nobody can be so dumb it isn't a joke. I think I gave up when a female co-worker could not answer the question "What chamber of Congress does the Speaker of the House preside over?" To show I am not picking on women alone, a guy once had "Major Dee" as a previous job title.
I agree texting is part of the problem.
Quote: AZDuffmana guy once had "Major Dee" as a previous job title.
It could be worse... He could have only been a "Wader".
Quote: AZDuffmana guy once had "Major Dee" as a previous job title.
Maitre D probably (maitre d'hotel) but isn't Majordomo sometimes shortened to Major D? And doesn't Majordomo extend beyond a household and encompass anyone charged with day to day operations, such as the Majordomo of an aqueduct system who makes day to day decisions as to water allocations and labor?
Quote: FleaStiffMaitre D probably (maitre d'hotel) but isn't Majordomo sometimes shortened to Major D? And doesn't Majordomo extend beyond a household and encompass anyone charged with day to day operations, such as the Majordomo of an aqueduct system who makes day to day decisions as to water allocations and labor?
aka: Ditch Tender?
Sometimes ditch rider. In New Mexico the law requires a Majordomo to be the day to day representative of the three commissioners of an irrigation system. The Majordomo has the power to conscript emergency labor, levy fines for interference with the flow of the water, issue scrip payable by the commissioners to contracted labor, allocate water as he sees fit amongst the various downstream holders of water-rights. Often it is a position of great trust though never great money.Quote: TIMSPEEDaka: Ditch Tender?
12 years ago, I hired an assistant while I was working at a University. This girl was college educated, and not a dim bulb. She spoke eloquently, had excellent writing skills, and was, quite frankly, a great assistant. When I left the job, she was pregnant, and contemplating moving back to her home town to raise the child with her family. She also had some good prospects for jobs there once the baby was born.
Fast forward to about a year ago. She finds me on Facebook and adds me. This was kind of interesting for me, as we had fallen out of touch and hadn't communicated in at least 9 years. I was shocked at the writing of her Facebook posts. They were very similar, in both writing, spelling, diction, grammar, and whatever else you want to say, as this person's email. I will also mention that my former assistant was not black, and thus the excuse of ebonics coming out would not apply. And remember, she was college educated, and I had never heard this kind of language from her during the years we worked together.
Her Facebook posts got to be too much for me, I just couldn't handle the awful language and grammar. I deleted her as a friend. She almost immediately sent me a message asking why I had done so, and being the blunt, honest person that I am, I told her. She replied that she was a bit disappointed, but understood. It was at this point that I realized that neither her first nor second message were in the awful format. They were great examples of excellent writing.
So I asked her why she posted that way on Facebook. And she proceeded to tell me how popular it is. Lots of people are doing it. I'm amazed by this, but it is what it is. I'm guessing that there are definitely those people who aren't literate enough to form complete sentences, use correct grammar, or spell properly. But I'm not sure if it's more pathetic to be that way, or to know better and emulate it anyway.
Quote: Wizard
"hi i m in a relation for last 10 mnths & now i m gettin 2 know dat he is cheatin on me but whether its true or false is a ? so i m soo tensed raly cant understand so pls help me"
Is this a joke, or are the youth of America really this illiterate?
Kids today could be illiterate, or just lazy, or they think it's hip to be idiots. Hope this girl learns proper English before she sends out resumés, applications, cover letters, emails to prospective new bosses, etc. In this electronic world, we're judged by those we never meet by what we say in emails, facebook pages, tweets, and of course forum posts, and how we say it. As if her writing's not bad enough, I can imagine what she looks like. Full tattoo sleeves, nose ring, pin through the eyebrow, green hair and pregnant at 16. These kids look just as dumb as they write. Las Vegas is such a worldwide destination, I see styles from around the globe you probably don't get in Albany or Helena. The whiteboy wannabe gangsta who imitate their rap heroes who adpoted on the outside, the poor-fitting prison clothes they wore on the inside. We've all seen those kids with pants falling off their asses who can't carry anything with two hands because one hand is constantly used to hold up their pants. For all the street cred this may gain, if they ever are stopped by the cops for something and decide to run, they won't get five steps before tripping on their falling pants. Can't believe they think girls find that attractive. Equally stupid girls, maybe.
Stereotypes don't get that way by accident. I see all types at the poker tables here. White boy posers like to emulate Phil Laak with the hoodie/sunglasses attire. Black posers wear sportsgear, sideways ball caps, gold chains etc. The other day at the Rio, a black guy comes to our table wearing LeBron James jersey and basketball shorts down to his ankles (he drove to the poker room directly from the b-ball courts? really?), sideways cap, Elton John sunglasses, huge gaudy watch that glittered like it was $10,000, but he likely bought for $10 at a mall kiosk.
Dealer: Welcome to the table, sir.
LeBron: Lemme axe you a quesshon. Wat da blinds be?
Dealer: The blinds are 1 and 3, sir. No limit.
LeBron: Aiiiiight.
This guy donked off $300 and rebought once before leaving in 30 minutes.
It takes just as many syllables to speak properly (Let me ask you a question. What are the blinds?), and yet he didn't. He chose, like the girl in the OP, to align himself with the lowest class of ignorant people and thus announce himself as low class by association. I wondered what else he brought to Vegas in his suitcase besides basketball jerseys. Maybe that's all he wears. He's black after all.
Quote: zippyboy
It takes just as many syllables to speak properly (Let me ask you a question. What are the blinds?), and yet he didn't. He chose, like the girl in the OP, to align himself with the lowest class of ignorant people and thus announce himself as low class by association. I wondered what else he brought to Vegas in his suitcase besides basketball jerseys. Maybe that's all he wears. He's black after all.
This is something I find interesting about our times. Years ago the lower class tried to emulate the upper class. Even the crooks tried to look like businessmen. Would you see John Gotti with pants hanging down? Today the millde class youth want to emulate, "the ghetto" for some reason.
You be right.Quote: zippyboyIt takes just as many syllables to speak properly (Let me ask you a question. What are the blinds?), and yet he didn't. He chose, like the girl in the OP, to align himself with the lowest class of ignorant people and thus announce himself as low class by association.
Quote: FleaStiffYou be right.
He b rite.
Quote: AZDuffmanWould you see John Gotti with pants hanging down? Today the millde class youth want to emulate, "the ghetto" for some reason.
True. But personally I don't care if a thug is a classy dresser. Because being a thug negates any positives.
YOU CAN PUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG...etc.,
The sarcasm in the dealer's voice, when he said "sir" the second time, comes thru loud and clear.Quote: zippyboyDealer: Welcome to the table, sir.
LeBron: Lemme axe you a quesshon. Wat da blinds be?
Dealer: The blinds are 1 and 3, sir. No limit.
LeBron: Aiiiiight.
As someone who tries to be a stickler for proper spelling and grammar (forum posts aside), I want to slap people who write like the girl in your email. Real violence.
Quote: WizardHere is the last cheating boyfriend question that managed to slip through my Email defenses:
"hi i m in a relation for last 10 mnths & now i m gettin 2 know dat he is cheatin on me but whether its true or false is a ? so i m soo tensed raly cant understand so pls help me"
Is this a joke, or are the youth of America really this illiterate? I just had to share this, the pain is too much for one person to bear alone.
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Quote:Okay iv been seeing this guy for 2 years and he recenltly ended it becase of all the fights he says he just carnt do it anymore but he also saysd things like its going to kill me not to have you around or it just doesnt feel right without you but its for the best and we havent talked for a weeek but we are on talking terms now and he let me see him gaian but he told me we carnt keep doing it ... the only reason we fought was because of him and girls i dont trust him .... his best friend told me he had sex with this girl i asked him he lied he lied to muy face for months about it and he finally admited the truth and said it was cuz she diddnt want to loose me or hurt me but it diddnt mean anything and he diddnt actually have sex weith her he says he went to put it in but then he looked at her and just couldnt do it ..... now his talking to this girl on facebook everyones saying the had sex he swears its toalat b.s i think its b.s to but im not sure and now he tells me he like
s this girl its his bestfriens he said he would do stuff with her and have sex with her but not yet .. but he wouldnt want to wreack their friendship .... and he never actually dated me but we kinda were together i came over to his house heapss im the only girls thats met his mum we usto just cuddle up and watch movies he says he thinks he loves me ..... it took 2 years for him to sAY it ... his never felt like he has about another girl of what he feels with me and im just wondering if i should ask him about these girels or leave it ... because i think if i show him their doesnt have to be fights he might want a relationship with me he also told me when he said its over that when he wants a relationship he wants to try with me again .... i have no clue whats going on or what to do .....
Quote: WizardHere is the latest Cheating Boyfriend question, which was incorrectly sent directly to me.
I think your Spanish is a lot better than this person's English.
The heroine, the Texas Ranger, even the villains all spoke succinctly and clearly.
Somehow I doubt that was the norm back in The Day.
It might have been. Eloquence was valued then and often the American West was populated with well educated and very literate people from diverse backgrounds. Remember Saki, (H. H. Munro) had been a road agent. Many settlers had been officers in foreign armies. Some mining towns boasted of fine French cuisine and hosted opera houses and touring European theater groups. Even in remote line-shacks books were valued greatly.Quote: MrVSomehow I doubt that was the norm back in The Day.
Quote: seviayI live in an apartment complex, and we laugh every time the office sends out an email -- improper grammar, little to no punctuation, misspellings, typos, you name it. People are not only stupid, but they are now lazy as well.
.... I want to slap people who write like the girl in your email. Real violence.
Not only are they stupid and lazy, but they don't even care that they're stupid and lazy, since many of their email recipients are equally stupid and lazy. They can tell at a glance what "ur" is supposed to mean in the context intended, so they figure "Why do it right? They'll get what I mean."
After all, your apt complex office girl got the job. I wonder how many handwritten errors were on her application. Kids text words like "ur" on an iPhone, but what's the excuse if they do it in longhand?
I'd like to nominate this as "Best post of the day."Quote: NareedI think your Spanish is a lot better than this person's English.
No. But I learned how to avoid it: The key is to gloss over these letters before the headache begins.Quote: AZDuffmanInformal poll--am I the only one who gets a headache trying to understand the bad grammar and all in these letters?
Quote: WizardHere is the last cheating boyfriend question that managed to slip through my Email defenses:
"hi i m in a relation for last 10 mnths & now i m gettin 2 know dat he is cheatin on me but whether its true or false is a ? so i m soo tensed raly cant understand so pls help me"
Is this a joke, or are the youth of America really this illiterate? I just had to share this, the pain is too much for one person to bear alone.
Yes. But it applies to the whole world going to hell in a handbasket. Europe, the Middle East (Lebanon was once the 'Switzerland' of the Middle East, picture that), Russia, are there any bright spots? Atrophy, the lowering of all standards of the modern world, lowers all boats in the dying sea called Earth. Thank you, voice of doom.
Quote: AZDuffmanInformal poll--am I the only one who gets a headache trying to understand the bad grammar and all in these letters?
No. Sorry to share these letters with the forum, but the pain is too much to take by myself.
Quote: odiousgambitI'm starting to think these women could save themselves some time and just copy and paste what the last woman wrote, they are exactly the same. Well, except only some of them seem to know to check the texting logs.
Good observation. 90% of the time such letters involve the girl snooping through the guys cell phone.
By the time they are motivated to do that... they already know the truth, they just don't want to admit it to themselves yet. Now it may be that the girls are pretty much destined to have "boyfriends" who cheat because that is the type of guy they seek out though perhaps do not yet realize this. It may also be possible that rather than being some naive and empty-headed doormat they are indeed being mislead despite their being alert. Its just that it seems the empty-headed doormats are numerous.Quote: Wizard90% of the time such letters involve the girl snooping through the guys cell phone.
Quote: PaigowdanYes. But it applies to the whole world going to hell in a handbasket.
It's not that bad. At least today's youngsters need to engage more of their brains in order to understand the gibberish that passes for writing among them these days.
Quote: FleaStiffNow it may be that the girls are pretty much destined to have "boyfriends" who cheat because that is the type of guy they seek out though perhaps do not yet realize this.
I agree. I've never understood why girls are attracted like flies to the men who treat them terribly. Not just in the cheating department, but all ways.
Quote: WizardI agree. I've never understood why girls are attracted like flies to the men who treat them terribly. Not just in the cheating department, but all ways.
And so, Wizard, what can we father's of young daughters do to prevent them from falling into the same destructive pattern?
Quote: AyecarumbaAnd so, Wizard, what can we father's of young daughters do to prevent them from falling into the same destructive pattern?
Not the Wizard, but here's my suggestion:
Treat their mother right. Treat them right. And teach them that this is the way they should expect to be treated. If that is their history, experience, and mindset, they won't likely seek out someone inclined to do them wrong.
After spending eight hours a day, five days a week at the DMV... er, uh... school, how can they learn self respect?Quote: DJTeddyBearTeach them some self-respect.
There may be some evolutionary advantage to a female who selects males who are strong and violent.
Two girls who made it out of the Bario to high-paying jobs as legal secretaries decided to return to a life in the gang-controlled Bario where men are men and women are bruised and pregnant. I think it was the NY Times that published an article discussing the attraction of violent males in Los Angeles gang territory.
I don't pretend to have the answer. Hell, I don't have kids, so I don't have a clue how it's done.Quote: FleaStiffAfter spending eight hours a day, five days a week at the DMV... er, uh... school, how can they learn self respect?
My point was not that they must have PERFECT spelling, grammar, punctuation, etc., but that they should know that what they are doing is wrong, and try to do better.
Errors can be tolerated. Laziness is not. Self-respect means to not encourage people to think you're an idiot.
Quote: NareedIt's not that bad. At least today's youngsters need to engage more of their brains in order to understand the gibberish that passes for writing among them these days.
Texting is part of it and killing proper capitalization as well. Think it isn't important?
"My uncle has a bad back so at the park I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse."
"my uncle has a bad back so at the park I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."
Quote: AZDuffmanTexting is part of it and killing proper capitalization as well. Think it isn't important?
"My uncle has a bad back so at the park I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse."
"my uncle has a bad back so at the park I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."
A comma wouldn't hurt either..
"My uncle has a bad back so at the park I had to help my uncle Jack, off a horse."
"my uncle has a bad back so at the park I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."
