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April 18th, 2018 at 5:06:09 PM permalink
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First, I assume this whole thread got transferred from somewhere else that I did not read, because it seems to start in the middle of a discussion.



Yes, it's a split-off from the health and weight loss thread.

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The confusion on such a topic typically arises in a conversation such as this one between two children:

Susie: "I want to go to the circus."
Jane: "Me, too."

That second comment is perhaps correct if Jane is suggesting that Susie should go to Jane, too, in addition to the circus, but if Jane wants to see the clowns herself, she (most formally) should have said, "I, too (want to go to the circus)." However, in the informal parlance, "Me, too" is quite common in that context.



I, too, was going to make that point. That "me too," in this example, is a lazy way of saying, "I, too, want to go to the circus." However, since the part about the circus is implied from context, it should be abbreviated to just "I too."

In the OP, I meant to say, "I, too, have heard from nutritionists that it is dangerous to avoid all carbs." However, since what I was agreeing to was obvious from context, "I too" would seem to abide by the rules of English.

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Only very strict grammarians (or nerds on a gambling forum) would have trouble with that.



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April 18th, 2018 at 5:41:03 PM permalink
It's a disjunctive pronoun, not a subject pronoun, so it doesn't need to be inflected as 'I', which would sound unnatural to most English speakers anyway.

And the only rule of English, as well with any other language, is that the expressions and structures that native speakers find acceptable and use regularly are "correct" English.
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April 18th, 2018 at 6:19:27 PM permalink
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Me too (why isn't it "I too"?) It is definitely true you want to carbo-load before doing something huge. I recently did a huge Grand Canyon hike with about 20 other people and everybody was carbo-loading the day before. There shouldn't even be a debate that carbs are a great source of energy.

I will say that if you are overweight, you should try to eat carbs in moderation. But to eliminate them completely is not a healthy way to lose weight. I might add that I've known people to lose weight on Atkins or other no-carb diets, but all of them eventually put the weight back on.

In my opinion, there is no short cut to losing weight. It takes simply exercise and eating less. The best food to avoid is sugar.


IMO...

A: "I like to go hiking."
B: "I too like to go hiking."

A: "Someone once tried to fight me."
B: "[That happened to] me too."


From what I remember.....carbo-loading should be done the day BEFORE the event, perhaps even two days before. Carbs don't digest easily and take a while to turn into sugar (I think it's sugar?) for energy.

Back in high school and especially middle school, I had to lose weight for wrestling, oftentimes as much as possible (I wrestled 160 in HS all 4 years, even though junior and senior year I weighed 180....and 130 in middle school, even though I weighed 145). State/regional/national tournaments, the weigh-ins were the night before the tournament started. Any time I ate pasta after weigh-ins, I'd be all slow and sluggish the following day. So I switched up my strategy and decided to just eat a nice prime rib after weigh-ins and I always felt great with plenty of energy the next day.

Had I been able to eat (much) food the day or two before weigh-ins, I probably would have been eating pasta on the day and two days before the event. Unfortunately, that wasn't really possible (on the plus side, pasta's nasty, so I got out of that!), so I'd be stuck eating stupid s*** food like a small strip of fish and egg whites for my meals.
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April 18th, 2018 at 8:48:11 PM permalink
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But then why is “The Doctor and I” correct while “The Doctor and me” is not?

It isn't always correct. The simplest test is to remove "the doctor and" and then use whichever pronoun makes sense.

The doctor and I are going to the store. Do you want to join the doctor and me?

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

It irritates the crap out of me when someone says “Xxx and I” when “Xxx and me” is proper and correct.

I’ve even heard one guy, so afraid to use “me” or any form of it, say “I’s” when “my” is the intended word.


On a side note, before I get thrown under a bus...

If “I’s” were an acceptable word, it would be spelled without the apostrophe.
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April 19th, 2018 at 1:53:45 AM permalink
when something that is used that is technically wrong, like "it's me", and you find your are using it in a circumstance where formal language is required, you really should just change everything. In this case when writing,

"I said it was me"

you might change that to

"I said I was the one " [rather than the awkward 'it was I']
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April 19th, 2018 at 2:35:12 AM permalink
From what I recall in Elementary School, "It is I," was how they spoke in say 1611 in England. That is to say when they still spoke like,"Thou, thee, dost, shalt, or a religious quip, the way the English King James Bible version is written. ;)
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April 19th, 2018 at 3:00:08 AM permalink
Some insight:

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2010/08/me-too-i-too.html
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April 19th, 2018 at 3:00:41 AM permalink
I thought it was "#metoo"
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April 19th, 2018 at 3:04:27 AM permalink
Holy shet you’re back!! Welcome back.
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April 19th, 2018 at 4:45:28 AM permalink
I mean in less than 20 years, slang will take over the English language to a point where its become the norm

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