BigTip
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September 26th, 2010 at 9:28:34 AM permalink
If you are going to play in San Diego you can take craps out of consideration. Or does California have craps now?
MathExtremist
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September 26th, 2010 at 10:21:22 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Even that guy from the UK who walked in and bet his entire life's savings at a casino did so at roulette so as to have a 5.26 edge against him rather than doing something like that a slot machine.



Most high-denom slot machines have a significantly lower edge than 5.26%. In fact, the Nevada revenue report shows that on average, slot machines denominated $1 and higher realized a lower edge over the past year than double-zero roulette. See http://gaming.nv.gov/documents/pdf/1g_10jul.pdf

Don't forget about the play rate. You get maybe 45 spins/hour on roulette. On slots, it's easily 10x that, so the edge doesn't need to be nearly as high to earn the same amount.
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Mosca
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September 26th, 2010 at 10:26:05 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Yes. It ought to take care of the casino's lighting bill for a week too. And at any slot machine, the edge is simply going to be very high.

Even that guy from the UK who walked in and bet his entire life's savings at a casino did so at roulette so as to have a 5.26 edge against him rather than doing something like that a slot machine.



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Twix
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September 26th, 2010 at 4:21:49 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

By the way, what is your motivation for this?


I'm just interested to see what would happen.

Quote: Asswhoopermcdaddy


Wouldn't you want to prolong every bit of that $1000 while your there and maximize gaming time and comps? It would hurt to lose $1k just outright. But then again if money is no consideration, why even care about the lowest HA games right?



I would prefer to win rather than lose but losing is expected if one goes to the casino.

Quote: BigTip

If you are going to play in San Diego you can take craps out of consideration. Or does California have craps now?



AFAIK, Sycuan has card variation of craps, where the card determine what the dice roll is. I heard Barona has card craps also but it's strictly cards like Morongo. Since the original craps is banned from California, not sure why though.


Also thank you everyone for the advice!
Ayecarumba
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September 27th, 2010 at 12:48:08 PM permalink
Quote: Twix

AFAIK, Sycuan has card variation of craps, where the card determine what the dice roll is. I heard Barona has card craps also but it's strictly cards like Morongo. Since the original craps is banned from California, not sure why though.



The state law, and compacts that give the Tribal casinos permission to operate stipulate that all table games must be, "card based". In other words the decisions on wagers have to be based on cards, rather than other mechanisms (the roulette ball, or the dice for craps). This has led to the creation of "card-craps" and "card-roulette" variants. If you are familiar with traditional versions of these games, especially craps, it is an odd experience to watch as the boxman turns over two cards then makes a call, "Seven Out!".
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98Clubs
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October 21st, 2010 at 3:08:53 AM permalink
Not quite as bad but this one works too. Pick 6 numbers on the European Roulette wheel as adjacent rows. For this bet lets say its 10 to 15. Bet $850. With the other $150 bet on the zero. If 10-11-12-13-14-15 come up you win 4250 + keep the 850 for a total of 5100. If the ZERO comes up your 150 pays 5250 + the original 150. Of course on the Euro-Wheel there are 30 losers. GL & GG.

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rxwine
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October 21st, 2010 at 4:25:26 AM permalink
Not what you asked, but I'd make sure I had the casino's point card and start playing $25 dollar Deuces Wild (97% or therabouts) if they have it.

Two or three (or 4) things might happen.

You might have a run of good hands and decide you don't want to throw away that money you just made, and quit and go home with a nice profit.
You might hit 4 deuces before you go broke. (not too likely, but hey, you might even hit a royal (even less likely)
You might go broke.
You'll probably get the casinos attention -- they might decide to rebate you generously at home (the points card) thinking you're gonna drop big money on them. So, you get some return on that 1000.
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