buzzpaff
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September 24th, 2011 at 5:46:41 PM permalink
" When it comes to "class III slot machines" and "video lottery ternimals", while they look very similiar, there are significient differences in both the way they operate and are regulated by federal and state government. "

Sort of like putting a bra on a bull and calling it a cow. I bet Sitting Bull wishes he had enforced his immigration laws more strictly.
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September 26th, 2011 at 3:59:11 AM permalink
Daily News seems to be complaining about honesty...

Daily News complains that Aqueduct is marketing itself as a casino rather than some euphemism or as a Video Lottery parlor.

"They're proudly calling it a full-fledged gaming parlor - in a state where the Constitution supposedly bans casino gambling.

"The gambling options lying in wait" .... interesting terminology there! Gambling as some predator lying in wait for the unwary despite all the publicity, bright lights and open use of the term casino.

"will offer electronic baccarat, roulette, craps and sic bo run by computers. The baccarat tables feature real cards dealt by robots." ... Robots? So no longer is it a digital image of a stylized human being its now an actual robot?

Governor has floated the idea of asking voters to ratify a constitutional amendment legalizing casinos.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/09/25/2011-09-25_nys_dicey_proposition.html#ixzz1Z3QL1ssw
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September 26th, 2011 at 3:18:25 PM permalink
I looked up that robot thing and its a pair of glass enclosed robotic arms manipulating playing cards. Seems silly but I guess the dealer never makes mistakes or seeks a raise. Eight betting positions. I think I'd prefer a live dealer though.
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September 26th, 2011 at 4:03:26 PM permalink
Non-tippers of course will love the robot.
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September 26th, 2011 at 4:04:16 PM permalink
I personally would prefer a live dealer. Or if none is available, Dan Lubin.
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October 5th, 2011 at 7:16:19 PM permalink
Face:

I have a question about the Tribal compact boundary(ies).... is Route 17 (AKA I-86) the sole NW/SE boundary, or does something like I-84 also come into play?

The reason I ask, is that there were many top-name casino hotels built around Ellenville back in the late 50's/ Early 60's. AFAIK, these were "ready to go" casino, that merely did not have the equipment installed. Was any legal respect given to that situation?, thanks.

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October 5th, 2011 at 9:41:03 PM permalink
Quote: NandB

Face:

I have a question about the Tribal compact boundary(ies).... is Route 17 (AKA I-86) the sole NW/SE boundary, or does something like I-84 also come into play?

The reason I ask, is that there were many top-name casino hotels built around Ellenville back in the late 50's/ Early 60's. AFAIK, these were "ready to go" casino, that merely did not have the equipment installed. Was any legal respect given to that situation?, thanks.

N&B



The I-86 was an error on my part. The correct border is Rt 14. Rt 14 runs north/south between the Finger Lakes from Lake Ontario to the PA border, so as far as my non-lawyer mind can comprehend it, that would mean everything from mid-Finger Lakes to the west would be "protected" from having a NY casino operating. However, as has been pointed out, NY currently operates a Class II racino in Hamburg, which is about 20 minutes south of Seneca Niagara, 25 minutes north of SG&E in Irving, and 40 minutes north of Seneca Allegany. In other words, it's smack dab in the middle of the tribal operation.

I've not heard of these Ellenville places, nor have I even heard of a town called Ellenville. But, and this again is my totally non-lawyer opinion, if they fell in this area I'd assume it was prohibited, but as has been proven that really doesn't mean all that much.
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October 5th, 2011 at 9:55:45 PM permalink
My reference to Ellenville is more appropriately called the "Catskill" area Hotel/Resorts built in the 50's/60's. These are East of the Finger Lakes Region, between the the small cities of Kingston, and Port Jervis, NY. Some of these also were planned a little West of there in Monticello/Liberty NY. Last I knew and saw, this area has fallen on hard-times.

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October 6th, 2011 at 12:14:05 AM permalink
Ah, 10-4. To answer your question acurately, then no. Everything east of Finger Lakes doesn't fall under this "protection". However you may have seen earlier this thread about Nation talks considering opening a casino in the Catskill area. Maybe those old ready-to-go sites are part of their plan? And how would the Compact "protection" look with a tribal casino down yonder? I've no answers for these questions. Not yet, at least.
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October 6th, 2011 at 2:11:46 AM permalink
Quote: Face

As I stated in a separate thread, NYS is currently considering allowing Class III gaming (other than tribal)...

Movies such as Rounders depicted high stakes poker as being all over town in NYC. I know that decades ago (prior to Atlantic City) a full fledged casino opened in the Chelsea area of Manhattan but undercover cops soon infiltrated it and the cops shut it down with all those hip, trendy yuppies spending a night in the clink. For years a Rabbi ran a religious school in Brooklyn that involved Blackjack and Craps as well as Poker. He finally got shut down when the cops found he had no credentials as a Rabbi.

Do you know the current situation as to gambling in NYC? Does Off Track Betting still take the fleas away from serious bookies and lead housewives into debt? Are there upscale games available or is it simply cheaper to go to Atlantic City rather than risk an illegal casino? Are the slots and slot look-a likes drawing the Retirees only?

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