7outlineaway
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August 19th, 2011 at 10:09:05 AM permalink
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I am planning on spending a Friday night and a Wednesday night in Black Hawk next month. I appreciate any suggestions on where to stay, eat, etc. Any place that I have to check out? Favorite craps crew?

Interesting to hear that the Lodge rates your odds bet. Anywhere else do that? How hard is it to get a comped room when playing just table games?

Any advice or thoughts from Colorado people is most welcome.



Forget about finding a decently priced room on Friday night in BH/CC. Best option is probably to stay somewhere on the west side of Denver (Golden area). I know "free" shuttles run between Colorado Mills and BH, run by the casinos. "Free" is in quotes because they charge you on the order of $20, which you then get reimbursed for after a nominal amount of play; this requires a player's card too. As mentioned, once you're in Black Hawk it is easy to hop around.

I would start by getting a Lodge/Gilpin player's card (they have the same owner) and racking up points at these properties. Pit bosses at both places have confirmed to me they count odds. Thus it is quite easy to achieve a "spread" of $200-300 with multiple pass/come/don't bets working. The buffet at the Lodge is decent and you may be able to earn a trip just via points. I often rack up 1000-2000 points per session, with one point equaling one cent as at Harrah's properties. I think the Lodge has a promotion where 500 points on your first day of play gets you $10 cash back, or something similar.

Lady Luck has great dealers but they do not award points for table games, nor does the Isle. There's still some tracking going on, however, as I get comp room offers all the time. If you have decent play there on a weeknight it wouldn't hurt to ask what they can do for you regarding a room.

I don't play at Ameristar, or really anywhere else other than Lodge/Gilpin and LL/Isle.
gambler
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August 19th, 2011 at 3:15:42 PM permalink
I spoke to a host at the Lodge Casino in Blackhawk this afternoon. Couple of interesting points:

1. Table games at the Lodge are rated.

2. It is against Colorado law to offer casino credit.

3. The host also believed it was against Colorado law to accept front money from players. (I can not mail a check to the, ahead of time).

So, a player would have to bring their bankroll to Colorado in cash or travelers checks.

4. A blackjack player can play more then one spot at $100 per hand (table max) as long as the pit boss allows it.

I have decide to stay there for my trip in September. Should be fun.
indignant99
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February 28th, 2015 at 1:06:45 AM permalink
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Teddys, what were the odds for the majority of the craps tables? 3x4x5x? 10x?

I found it interesting to see that with a max bet of $100, you were able to bet a $3 don't pass with $96 laying the odds behind. Interesting that odds bet is not considered to be a separate bet.


Whoa, whoa, whoa! They are separate bets... But remember, any odds bet cannot exceed $100. What amount would you have laid behind the Don't-8 ?

When craps first came to Blackhawk/Central City in July 2009, most tables were $2 or $3 or $5 minimum. And many of those tables had signage saying "unlimited odds." That damn sure puzzled me, so I asked what it meant (at Johnny Z - not Zee). Answer: you may take odds of $100 (the max legal bet) regardless of what was on Pass/Come or the Don'ts.

Now, the "gorilla" casinos are 3-4-5x odds. But the smaller ones have $2/$3 minimum and either 10x or 20x odds. Gilpin Casino (actually the historic Gilpin Hotel) is $2 min and 25x odds.

Another change since 2009... Every "Field" began at Triple-12. Within 18 months, every casino went to Double-12. Chiselers. I never play "Field" anymore (not that I ever did, much, in the first place).
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indignant99
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February 28th, 2015 at 3:59:15 AM permalink
I think I misspoke about Gilpin Casino. I think they allow 20x odds, not 25x.
The Wildwood Casino (Cripple Creek) has $1 minimum, and 25x odds.
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sevencard2003
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June 27th, 2016 at 5:17:01 AM permalink
if someone wishes to stay in the area longer term, for a few weeks or more, seems they can earn free rooms in the isle mon-thurs for 6 hours of live $1-2 NL. which is good, especially if trying to grind out $500-1000 week off a very low roll. but what do they do on fri and sat? are they any crack infested dumps available? do u have to go into denver on the bus to get rooms for like $40-60 on weekends? is there a network of AP's in the know who sell these to people on weekends for a greatly discounted cost for a fair price which they get free and don;t need since they have a home to go to instead?
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June 27th, 2016 at 8:50:25 AM permalink
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if someone wishes to stay in the area longer term, for a few weeks or more, seems they can earn free rooms in the isle mon-thurs for 6 hours of live $1-2 NL. which is good, especially if trying to grind out $500-1000 week off a very low roll. but what do they do on fri and sat? are they any crack infested dumps available? do u have to go into denver on the bus to get rooms for like $40-60 on weekends? is there a network of AP's in the know who sell these to people on weekends for a greatly discounted cost for a fair price which they get free and don;t need since they have a home to go to instead?


Pretty much the only rooms in BH/CC are in Casinos, and they are never cheap on the weekends. You could take a bus to Denver, but it might still be hard to find a cheap room.
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