MrV
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June 8th, 2021 at 4:06:10 PM permalink
My closest casino is a tribal joint outside of Portland called Ilani.

They now have a no exceptions policy where you are required to pause for a camera to view you and also give your state ID to an attendant who copies / scans it before it is returned.

This is not good for AP's or others wishing to fly under the radar.

Do any Las Vegas casinos do this ... yet?
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June 8th, 2021 at 4:16:01 PM permalink
Maybe the requirement will spread to other properties managed by Mohegan Sun Gaming & Entertainment.
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June 8th, 2021 at 4:25:12 PM permalink
It's being done in Rhode Island at least one Casino and at Plainridge Park Casino in Massachusetts.

And yes they are using it to check for AP databases. I was told I was not allowed inside the Plainridge Park location and then a photo of me at the security entrance popped up in OSN marked as my last known appearance

It was my first visit ever!
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June 8th, 2021 at 4:37:40 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

It's being done in Rhode Island at least one Casino ...

Tiverton Casino Hotel and Twin River Casino are the only casinos in Rhode Island. They are both state owned and managed, so both probably have the ID requirement.

Massachusetts licenses three casinos, Plainridge Park Casino being one of them, but each is managed by a different organization. Perhaps MGM Springfield and Encore Boston Harbor have different requirements.
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June 8th, 2021 at 4:51:19 PM permalink
A lot of casinos are/were asking people to lower their Covid mask at the entrance and cage.

This is the first I heard about IDs - and not just for those near 21.
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June 8th, 2021 at 4:51:24 PM permalink
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

Tiverton Casino Hotel and Twin River Casino are the only casinos in Rhode Island. They are both state owned and managed, so both probably have the ID requirement.

Massachusetts licenses three casinos, Plainridge Park Casino being one of them, but each is managed by a different organization. Perhaps MGM Springfield and Encore Boston Harbor have different requirements.



Rhode Island:

Riverton. Don't know didn't visit.

Twin River checked ID. Did not flag me however and in an unusual move checks ID when leaving as well (security said it's to know who is currently inside)

Massachusetts:. Only Plainridge scans all ID as mentioned above. Springfield you just have to lower your mask and Boston Encore as well
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June 8th, 2021 at 5:14:20 PM permalink
Mrs. Chips reports no ID asked for when she entered Mohegan Sun this afternoon. She will be at Foxwoods tomorrow. I'll post whether or not they required an ID.
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June 8th, 2021 at 5:37:59 PM permalink
Update:

I called Ilani casino to clarify their ID procedure.

The fellow said they ask for it only between 8 PM and 8 AM.

He said what looks like a camera is really a thermal imager to authomatically check temp.
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June 8th, 2021 at 6:47:38 PM permalink
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

Mrs. Chips reports no ID asked for when she entered Mohegan Sun this afternoon. She will be at Foxwoods tomorrow. I'll post whether or not they required an ID.



That's correct, neither Foxwoods nor Mohegan checked my ID.

Again so far only two Casinos have done it to me

Twin River and Plainridge.

It's not just looking at ID but scanning it into a database.

Twin River scans your ID leaving so they may just be keeping tabs on occupancy like they say.

But Plainridge absolutely used it to cross reference with OSN
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June 9th, 2021 at 3:52:14 AM permalink
Circa, The D and Golden Gate(Steven's Properties)have been requiring state ID's since November of 2020.

Run through a hand held scanner upon entrance at all doors leading in.

Maybe checking for the age 21 requirement?

It was still a thing when I was there in early April 2021.
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June 9th, 2021 at 5:32:00 AM permalink
Only Circa of the three was doing it when I went there. I was in another state last month where all of the casinos were scanning everyone’s ID on entry and temp check and then local guidelines/restrictions changed in the middle of the trip, then none of the casinos required it anymore so maybe a temporary requirement that goes away in some states.
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June 9th, 2021 at 5:57:03 AM permalink
I can confirm that Encore Boston and MGM Springfield do not ask for your ID, unless you look too young. Twin River does ask for ID both while entering and exiting. I was told this is because they need to keep a count of the total no of people in the casino.
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June 9th, 2021 at 9:07:50 AM permalink
One of our local-ish casinos was requiring ID earlier during the Pandemic.

And based on a more recent trip, I am happy to report that apparently 95 % of the people in that area are vaccinated (NOT), because the casino had a sign requiring un-vaccinated people to continue to wear a mask.
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June 9th, 2021 at 10:42:57 AM permalink
I heard yesterday that Cosmo in Vegas is asking for ID's unless you have a room key.
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June 9th, 2021 at 11:00:01 AM permalink
The Blue Chip (a Boyd casino) in Michigan City, Indiana requires you to show your ID and smile for the camera in order to enter the casino or the sports book. The Four Winds in New Buffalo, Michigan does not ask for an ID to enter.
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June 9th, 2021 at 12:19:17 PM permalink
I frequent the Mardi Gras Resort and Casino in West Virginia about 5 times a week. It is owned by Delaware North. They scan your ID at every visit, make you stop and pose for a camera and track your visits.
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June 9th, 2021 at 12:27:44 PM permalink
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June 9th, 2021 at 9:18:13 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

But Plainridge absolutely used it to cross reference with OSN

whats osn?
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June 9th, 2021 at 10:34:30 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

whats osn?



OSN. Oregon Surveillance Network.

Modern version of the Griffin Book

Only people with security clearance from Casinos can view what is written in OSN.

But that doesn't stop a good AP, lol
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June 10th, 2021 at 9:00:54 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I heard yesterday that Cosmo in Vegas is asking for ID's unless you have a room key.



That room key thing won't last. Just get an extra for your underage friend or sell it when your done.


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June 10th, 2021 at 7:26:37 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

That room key thing won't last. Just get an extra for your underage friend or sell it when your done.


ZCore13

. I’ve had to show a room key to get on a hotel elevator for years at various hotels. This isn’t new.
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June 10th, 2021 at 7:55:49 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

. I’ve had to show a room key to get on a hotel elevator for years at various hotels. This isn’t new.



A hotel is not a casino floor. A little bit different when you are dealing with compliance and license issues.


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June 12th, 2021 at 2:34:02 PM permalink
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February 11th, 2023 at 1:05:21 PM permalink
I walked into the local racino to take a look around. There were guards there scanning the back of driver's licenses at the door. Nobody is getting in without getting scanned. What they use the scan for, I don't know. But if I get a Player's card, I can get $2 off the $24 buffet.

I saw somebody playing Fortune 88 and they won the Major JP for $816 and the JP reset to $800, but the machine printed out a voucher instead of adding on the credits. I'm not sure if racinos tax at the cage when you cash in your voucher for amounts over $600, because it is a state lottery thing. The winner only had about $46 of credits left on the machine after the voucher printed out.

The racino was quite crowded, much more than the casino I normally go to, and nobody was wearing masks for COVID despite whatever upsurge in COVID cases are going on right now. The racino is closer to a big city, so that may be why it's so crowded, but I was disappointed when it first opened that it was slots only. I didn't see any bubble craps or VBJ but the video poker may have a better pay table. The racino has smaller jackpots and very few 5 figure JPs compared to the casino.
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February 11th, 2023 at 1:57:22 PM permalink
At my local casinos, if you're wearing a covid mask, you must pull it down and show your face to the camera before entering
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February 11th, 2023 at 2:06:26 PM permalink
Racinos are a strange breed. When they first came to Indiana they had to pay a ton extra for their gaming license.used to be casinos in Indiana had to be on water and racinos clearly weren't.as far as printing the slot voucher I think some machines print one depending on your credit you had when you hit the jackpot. Been forever since I have been to a casino or hit a jackpot but I remember something like that
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February 11th, 2023 at 4:45:38 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

I walked into the local racino to take a look around. There were guards there scanning the back of driver's licenses at the door. Nobody is getting in without getting scanned. What they use the scan for, I don't know. But if I get a Player's card, I can get $2 off the $24 buffet.

I saw somebody playing Fortune 88 and they won the Major JP for $816 and the JP reset to $800, but the machine printed out a voucher instead of adding on the credits. I'm not sure if racinos tax at the cage when you cash in your voucher for amounts over $600, because it is a state lottery thing. The winner only had about $46 of credits left on the machine after the voucher printed out.

The racino was quite crowded, much more than the casino I normally go to, and nobody was wearing masks for COVID despite whatever upsurge in COVID cases are going on right now. The racino is closer to a big city, so that may be why it's so crowded, but I was disappointed when it first opened that it was slots only. I didn't see any bubble craps or VBJ but the video poker may have a better pay table. The racino has smaller jackpots and very few 5 figure JPs compared to the casino.
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They are using it to identify AP's. I was hitting one racino when I got made (slot malfunctioned and the attendant insisted surveillance check the history of the machine before giving me a receipt for the cashier. I knew that wasn't gonna go good. I had been using another players card at the time).

Sure enough that card and my own personal card were turned off the next day. Rewards desk informed me I was observed using another players card.

I was using like forty lol. Kept moving forward with the operation for about two months until I got stopped at the door. My ID was flagged as a no entry. (Still hitting them. I got employees duh).

Another time I was stopped in a different state because I had been identified from OSN. They didn't tell me. Just said I was banned. Hadn't even hit them yet.

I checked OSN a week later and there was my photo from that specific casino as my last known sighting.

So yes, they definitely are scanning for undesirables.
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February 11th, 2023 at 7:14:05 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: 100xOdds

whats osn?





Only people with security clearance from Casinos can view what is written in OSN.


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February 16th, 2023 at 12:51:24 PM permalink
Would getting your ID checked at the door of a RACINO alert the IRS?
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February 16th, 2023 at 1:34:20 PM permalink
Resorts World at Aqueduct in Queens, uses facial recognition.

Every person entering the casino is required to stand for a moment in a taped off box on the floor and look directly at the camera above, before being permitted to enter the casino.
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February 16th, 2023 at 1:45:21 PM permalink
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Would getting your ID checked at the door of a RACINO alert the IRS?
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Alert them to what?

Entering a casino isn't a taxable event. Maybe I just enjoy the buffet.

And no, the IRS isn't tied into those systems to my knowledge.
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