NicksGamingStuff
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July 22nd, 2010 at 5:39:23 PM permalink
I saw this advertisement on my hotmail page, I think its crazy the fact they now have alcohol will bring people in. Perhaps knowing they have a way to drown out their sorrows, but still I don't drink when I play but then again I am somewhat of an intelligent player!





Never mind photobucket is messed up, it basically says Harrahs Cherokee is now serving alcohol through our entire casino
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July 22nd, 2010 at 8:52:18 PM permalink
Quote: NicksGamingStuff

I saw this advertisement on my hotmail page, I think its crazy the fact they now have alcohol will bring people in. Perhaps knowing they have a way to drown out their sorrows, but still I don't drink when I play but then again I am somewhat of an intelligent player!





Never mind photobucket is messed up, it basically says Harrahs Cherokee is now serving alcohol through our entire casino



They did that because they didn't like it that the place was expanding and becoming a decent resort, and all the Indians were always hanging around outside guzzling their firewater making it an eyesore for all the tourists. Now everyone can drink inside and Harrahs is happy.
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July 23rd, 2010 at 6:56:31 AM permalink
not serving alcohol at a casino is pretty lame. nothing wrong with a little alcohol
NicksGamingStuff
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July 23rd, 2010 at 8:06:57 AM permalink
I have no problem with alcohol being in a casino, my only thing I thought was funny is that they would buy a banner ad on my hotmail that says that they are now serving alcohol



Wow I finally got it to work!

Somehow hotmail knows I like casinos because all my ads are casinos and I guess they must have figured out I like booze too!
iamthepush
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July 23rd, 2010 at 8:23:50 AM permalink
Quote: NicksGamingStuff

I have no problem with alcohol being in a casino, my only thing I thought was funny is that they would buy a banner ad on my hotmail that says that they are now serving alcohol


Somehow hotmail knows I like casinos because all my ads are casinos and I guess they must have figured out I like booze too!




is it really funny though? they have a new product and with tracking cookies and whatnot, they've reached their target audience.

not having alcohol at a casino can be a deal breaker for some if not most gamblers or tourists.
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July 23rd, 2010 at 9:46:15 AM permalink
Quote: NicksGamingStuff

I have no problem with alcohol being in a casino, my only thing I thought was funny is that they would buy a banner ad on my hotmail that says that they are now serving alcohol



Wow I finally got it to work!

Somehow hotmail knows I like casinos because all my ads are casinos and I guess they must have figured out I like booze too!



I think its a very wise ad. I - and particularly my friends - would not likely attend a casino that didn't serve alcohol - particulary on say a weekend evening/overnight. It's just part of the experience - as I'm sure it is for a lot of people.
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July 23rd, 2010 at 2:09:23 PM permalink
People drink, they always have and always will. Consumption actually went up during Prohibition, not down. I talked to an old guy years ago who said there were twice as many illegal bars in his home town during Prohibition than legal bars before it started.
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July 23rd, 2010 at 6:32:30 PM permalink
I want people to understand I do not have a problem with drinking, I just thought it was funny there is a banner ad that says now serving alcohol and the fact hotmail always shows me casino ads.
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July 23rd, 2010 at 6:44:32 PM permalink
My computer also knows me a little too well. All the adds on my Gmail are either for gambling, graduate schools, or political candidates. Somehow, it even knows where I am (the political and gambling ads are local).
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July 23rd, 2010 at 7:37:31 PM permalink
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My computer also knows me a little too well. All the adds on my Gmail are either for gambling, graduate schools, or political candidates. Somehow, it even knows where I am (the political and gambling ads are local).



Yeah, they have your IP so they know at least where your internet service provider is located. It's funny because my company has its network stuff about 7 hours away, so it always gives me ads at work for local places that I've never heard of, 3 states over.
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December 5th, 2023 at 7:03:03 PM permalink
Happy 90th Anniversary of Repeal Day!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeal_of_Prohibition_in_the_United_States
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December 6th, 2023 at 2:43:15 AM permalink
What's interesting to me is there is a case for an approximate 50 year cycle for a Prohibition push. Anymore, it's hard to believe anyone would try to really restrict it like the 18th amendment did, but still there can be a movement for awareness and so on. In Virginia, there can be a crackdown on places not observing drinking laws, for example*

Perhaps 90 years is bringing it on, there seems to be a push for telling people that ‘any amount’ of alcohol is bad, while most of us are aware of studies that say moderate use can be healthy. Check out the link, and note what I would consider unscientific language, “cancers are caused” instead of “linked to cancer” or something … that kind of certainty is almost for sure not justified.

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latest available data indicate that half of all alcohol-attributable cancers in the WHO European Region are caused by “light” and “moderate” alcohol consumption…

https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health

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In 1968, Virginia finally passed a law that allowed restaurants to serve alcohol, but there were strings attached: 51 percent of a restaurant's sales had to be food, not counting appetizers and desserts, and beer and wine counted toward alcohol sales.Oct 2, 2018 Where did Virginia's food-to-liquor ratio come from ... Virginia Mercury https://www.virginiamercury.com


This law can be a pain in the ass if your out on the town and have decided to tuck into some beers or whatever. I’ve had management give hints it’s time to leave even when we are also ordering plenty of food. Appetizers don’t count! That sounds like an easy one to get around, so naturally you suspect such a place is under some heavy scrutiny.
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December 6th, 2023 at 4:28:48 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

What's interesting to me is there is a case for an approximate 50 year cycle for a Prohibition push. Anymore, it's hard to believe anyone would try to really restrict it like the 18th amendment did, but still there can be a movement for awareness and so on. In Virginia, there can be a crackdown on places not observing drinking laws, for example*



That kind of correlates to memory. We had some real bad problems with booze in the late 1800s. So a movement to cut down came about until prohibition. Then people saw the problems that caused and said "never again." Those people had kids who got told then they had kids who maybe learned it in school. Then eventually no real memory of problems it caused. Meanwhile people did remember the problems with drinking too much. But same cycle as booze got more acceptable. Then it caused problems bringing about MADD and the three martini lunch being unacceptable in the 1980s.

Now we are starting to see a touch of people thinking DUI laws have gone too far and the occasional place of employment letting you have a beer at your desk on Friday. They cycle repeats.
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December 6th, 2023 at 7:40:50 AM permalink
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That kind of correlates to memory. We had some real bad problems with booze in the late 1800s.
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It related directly to the masses of uneducated people, industrialization providing factory jobs, and men who would take their paycheck and their non-educated brains and go directly to the bar and get blind drunk every Friday and go home and beat their wife and kids. This is right around the same time when you could buy any drug you wanted at your local pharmacist. Put the two together and you kind of sort of have a problem..
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December 6th, 2023 at 9:04:12 AM permalink
How times change...not only is alcohol still legal, but so is cannabis in many states in the USA.

Give the people what they want: bread, circuses, and reefer.

Is there much blowback / criticism about recreational marijuana use in sin city?

Does its ingestion typically cause folks to drop their guard and often bet more, as seems the case with alcohol?

Any "420 friendly" casinos in LV?
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December 6th, 2023 at 9:46:21 AM permalink
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Any "420 friendly" casinos in LV?



They can't because it is still illegal federally so they can't chance it. It is even illegal to smoke it anywhere on the property even in your hotel room.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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December 6th, 2023 at 9:57:58 AM permalink
I should have done a google search before posting, but now I did and...voila'...the Lexi LV, formerly the Artisan Hotel, says they're 420 friendly.

see: https://www.fox5vegas.com/2023/06/01/first-cannabis-friendly-hotel-las-vegas-clarifies-rules-before-opening/
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December 6th, 2023 at 10:02:01 AM permalink
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I should have done a google search before posting, but now I did and...voila'...the Lexi LV, formerly the Artisan Hotel, says they're 420 friendly.

see: https://www.fox5vegas.com/2023/06/01/first-cannabis-friendly-hotel-las-vegas-clarifies-rules-before-opening/
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Good point. Non-gaming hotels can get away with it.
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December 6th, 2023 at 10:09:48 AM permalink
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Quote: AZDuffman



That kind of correlates to memory. We had some real bad problems with booze in the late 1800s.
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It related directly to the masses of uneducated people, industrialization providing factory jobs, and men who would take their paycheck and their non-educated brains and go directly to the bar and get blind drunk every Friday and go home and beat their wife and kids. This is right around the same time when you could buy any drug you wanted at your local pharmacist. Put the two together and you kind of sort of have a problem..
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They didn't need the factory to get loaded, we had amazing high booze consumption all over in the 1800s. But yes, when people got cramped in city apartments it allowed more of this to happen. Various legalizations are putting us back on the path towards being more drugged out. We are just going up the trend now. It might take 20 years but eventually you should expect to see campaigns to make being stoned in public socially unacceptable similar to being drunk all the time was in the 80s.
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December 6th, 2023 at 10:35:46 AM permalink
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They didn't need the factory to get loaded, we had amazing high booze consumption all over in the 1800s.
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The massive immigration of hard drinking Europeans between 1880 and 1920 contributed greatly to Prohibition. Especially the Eastern Europeans. I remember reading that in the 1970s in the Soviet Union at any given time during the day 40% of factory workers were legally drunk. Even today in your average Russian grocery store the amount of space given to Vodka sales is hard to believe. Imagine in the late 1800s you have millions of these people from Eastern Europe coming to the United States and making real money for the first time in their lives and they come from a hard drinking culture, what are they going to do with the money. In every major city there would be neighborhood bars in the same block where the factories were. And they all gladly cashed the paychecks of the workers. My dad started working for a factory after the war in 1945 and he said when you punched out on Friday there would be somebody there handing you your paycheck and many of his fellow workers would head straight for the bars that lined the street as you left the factory. This was just 12 years after prohibition ended. It got so bad that by the 1950s they were mailing the checks to the workers so at least the wife had a chance to get ahold of it first.
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December 6th, 2023 at 10:36:32 AM permalink
I found this article that says the average American drank 3.5 gallons of alcohol a year in 1770, which they make sound like is a lot. Unless I did the math wrong, if you break that down into 2-ounces of alcohol per serving, that's about 4.3 servings per week, which is nothing. The article then goes on to say by 1830 the average American drank seven gallons a year, or over 8 servings a week, which is a lot for me personally, but still doesn't seem that high at all. The article says that in the late 1700s and early 1800s, people would drink alcohol literally with every meal and take alcohol breaks at work during the day, but the math doesn't seem to add up if that only works out to 4-8 ounces a week during that era. They must have been drinking some really watered down alcohol. I would hardly call that a drinking problem.

https://daily.jstor.org/a-brief-history-of-drinking-alcohol/
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December 6th, 2023 at 12:46:15 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I found this article that says the average American drank 3.5 gallons of alcohol a year in 1770, which they make sound like is a lot. Unless I did the math wrong, if you break that down into 2-ounces of alcohol per serving, that's about 4.3 servings per week, which is nothing. The article then goes on to say by 1830 the average American drank seven gallons a year, or over 8 servings a week, which is a lot for me personally, but still doesn't seem that high at all. The article says that in the late 1700s and early 1800s, people would drink alcohol literally with every meal and take alcohol breaks at work during the day, but the math doesn't seem to add up if that only works out to 4-8 ounces a week during that era. They must have been drinking some really watered down alcohol. I would hardly call that a drinking problem.

https://daily.jstor.org/a-brief-history-of-drinking-alcohol/
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When they say they were drinking alcohol they mostly meant they were drinking hard cider, homemade wine, or weak beer. All three are not very high in alcohol but enough that at least you were getting something that didn't have bacteria in it. Hard liquor always came at a premium unless you made it yourself, which most people didn't have the resources for.
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December 6th, 2023 at 12:53:42 PM permalink
Before our revolutionary war the alcohol of choice was rum.

The English cut off the supply of molasses and rum during the war, so our forefathers, chasing that ephemeral buzz, turned to using home grown corn to make a previously less popular beverage...whiskey.
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December 6th, 2023 at 1:17:42 PM permalink
I recall that the legendary Johnny Appleseed planted apple trees across the plains to gain land grants. They grew terrible apples for eating, but perfect for making hard cider, which people drank because it was safer than drinking untreated water. So those Oregon Trail pioneers — men, women, and children — were constantly boozed up … before some died of dysentery.
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December 6th, 2023 at 1:31:30 PM permalink
Apple brandy was hugely popular, as was Madeira wine, since there were no wineries in the US at the time and Madeira could last a long time in almost any climate without spoiling.
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December 6th, 2023 at 1:31:58 PM permalink

D'oh!
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December 6th, 2023 at 1:42:12 PM permalink
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D'oh!
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Great game... still holds up.
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December 6th, 2023 at 3:08:01 PM permalink
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Apple brandy was hugely popular, as was Madeira wine, since there were no wineries in the US at the time and Madeira could last a long time in almost any climate without spoiling.
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My grandmother in West Virginia whose family has been here since before the Revolutionary War, made gallons and gallons of dandelion wine and they drank it all the time. It wasn't very alcoholic but neither was most of the stuff they drank in those days. You have to drink a lot of it to get drunk. They had pastures that were covered in acres and acres of dandelions in the spring. Maybe even into the summer I have no idea. They had fruit trees also and I think they made brandy from the apples and pears.
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