Ibeatyouraces
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August 12th, 2014 at 12:57:35 PM permalink
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AxelWolf
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August 12th, 2014 at 12:59:10 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

They had 10 roulette tables, now they have 3.
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Are you sure that was not because of your roulette system?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
EvenBob
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August 12th, 2014 at 1:05:17 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Are you sure that was not because of your roulette system?



Probably. Right now they have one of the
only $5 single zero tables with en prison
in the whole country. It's crowded 15
hours a day, you can't get near it. As a
result, they spin maybe a dozen times
an hour, there are so many chips on the
layout.
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Ibeatyouraces
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August 12th, 2014 at 1:12:25 PM permalink
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onenickelmiracle
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August 12th, 2014 at 1:52:16 PM permalink
The Soaring Eagle casino has gone downhill. I was there in May 2013 and liked it. They got rid of the Certified Hot program and lost many loyal people who were used to having a chance gambling. Their commercials used to say, if your casino doesn't have Certified Hot, you're in the wrong casino and now it burns them.
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Ibeatyouraces
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EvenBob
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August 12th, 2014 at 2:06:25 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

The Soaring Eagle casino has gone downhill. I was there in May 2013 and liked it. They got rid of the Certified Hot program .



They have got rid of a lot of things since
they got a woman CEO. She took out the
beverage stations, no more serve yourself
free coffee and soda. You can get a small cup
of pop from a server if you can find one.

There's so much empty space now that it's
borderline depressing. And they really squeeze
the money now. They spent 10's of millions
for 15 years to keep other casinos from opening,
and now they're all open anyway.
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FleaStiff
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August 12th, 2014 at 3:04:50 PM permalink
Q1: What is certified hot? Some sort of this bandit paid out so many dollars in the last so many hours/days?

Q2: " They spent 10's of millions for 15 years to keep other casinos from opening, and now they're all open anyway. "
Indian casinos are not immune from geography. Some Indian casinos did well when they were the only opportunity for zillions of miles around, but now they have to be on an interstate near a major city. Some tribes are too poor, some tribes too remotely located. Whether you open up a subway sandwich shop or you open up a casino, there is always some measure of cannibalism, you are draining customers from the industry faster than the delivery rooms can supply new ones.
EvenBob
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August 12th, 2014 at 3:34:05 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Q2: " They spent 10's of millions for 15 years to keep other casinos from opening, and now they're all open anyway. "
Indian casinos are not immune from geography. Some Indian casinos did well when they were the only opportunity for zillions of miles around, .



That was SE. They were the biggest casino in MI
and in the center of the state. They got all the
business from SW MI because there were no
casinos here. SE gave millions to lobbying groups
trying to keep new casinos from opening, stalling
them for years and years. But you can't fend off
the inevitable forever. Indians are the greediest
group of people I've ever seen. Once a tribe gets
'theirs', they will move mountains to make sure no
other tribe does.
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tringlomane
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August 12th, 2014 at 3:37:55 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Q1: What is certified hot? Some sort of this bandit paid out so many dollars in the last so many hours/days?



Slot machines that are supposed to be set at the loosest manufacturer setting (which can vary significantly among games and manufacturers). Googling it though mostly leads to Soaring Eagle. Most casinos don't disclose this publicly, or they never pick the loosest setting. For IGT games, I would expect casinos to pick the tightest setting the most. Most new games they offer have a 85% minimum payback and a 98% max.

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