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August 19th, 2014 at 8:21:35 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

What does population have to do with anything? I assume that we are talking about a divided freeway here, not driving past someone's driveway. Obviously if there is a lot of traffic you can't drive the speed limit.

Speed limits are stupid anyway. They have nothing to do with safety; they are just tax collectors. If the road is empty, the speed that I can drive safely in my car may not be the same as the speed that you can drive safely in your car. If the road is not empty, then you should drive at a speed that is safe given the traffic and road conditions, regardless of the speed limit.



This is exactly what I do. My FHP friends may not agree, but conditions and traffic movement have much more to do with how I drive than the speed limit. If it's bumper-to-bumper 85MPH on I95, then I'm going 85, not the speed limit of 70. Same thing when it's moving at 55. You're safest flowing with the river, not being a rock OR a rocket. People who insist on going the speed limit when traffic's 10-20MPH faster are the most dangerous drivers on that stretch of road, just because of what they cause to happen around them.
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AxiomOfChoice
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August 19th, 2014 at 8:29:19 PM permalink
Yup, this, exactly.
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August 19th, 2014 at 9:27:33 PM permalink
Quote: NewToCraps

Do you stop in at the "almost a casino" or just drive by ?

If you just drive by, isn't it cheaper (and a lot faster than 75 mph) to fly ?



Haven't seen the higher speed limit but SWA is giving decent rates, TPA to MSY, non stop even. My next trip should be by air. The only Hard Rock in my play list is in Biloxi.
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August 19th, 2014 at 9:44:59 PM permalink
I'm stuck in Tampa ... only bubble craps, although I do the Carnival crusie for 4 days out of Tampa to Mexico and there is a table on-board.

SWA offers the deal with a new credit card and 50,000 points - 2 round trip tickets (with a $99 annual fee), but get one personal and one business and you have 100,000 points - 4 round trip tickets and then just obtain 10,000 more points and you can have a companion fly fee with each of your flights for more than a years flights.

Thats 4 round trip tickets to Vegas for two .....
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August 19th, 2014 at 11:04:52 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Speed limits are stupid anyway. They have nothing to do with safety ...


+1

The last speeding ticket I got was in Virginia a few years ago, clocked at 79mph. After the paperwork was done and the officer handed me the ticket, his parting words were "drive carefully." The irony is that I was driving carefully, but I was doing so faster than the posted arbitrary speed limit of 65mph. Forcing slowness upon those of us who are capable of going faster is a PITA and a waste of everybody's time. While I'm at it, forcing "safety" upon those of us who do not fear death is just as stupid.
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August 20th, 2014 at 12:53:47 AM permalink
Considering how we still are dependent on a finite resource nobody has been able to replace, I'm not sure it's wise wasting any allowing more inefficiencies. Why should grandma have to pay more for gas because you waste it?
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August 20th, 2014 at 4:59:10 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Considering how we still are dependent on a finite resource nobody has been able to replace, I'm not sure it's wise wasting any allowing more inefficiencies. Why should grandma have to pay more for gas because you waste it?



How fast should a finite resource be used up? That's an honest question, not a wisecrack.

Some future generation presumably is going to have to use electric cars and more mass transportation. In the meantime some very large, 'constant dollar' [real] increase in the price of oil will wean us off of our current practices [oil can be made from coal; complete exhaustion of all options is way in the future]. Should we just use it how we please, allowing supply and demand to regulate us? Or do you like the European model of making sure gas is expensive as hell?

Or is environmental impact really the more pressing issue?
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August 20th, 2014 at 5:05:17 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

FYI, Gov. Rick Scott vetoed the proposed increase in early June.



Aren't Florida voters going to veto Gov. Scott's governorship this November?

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I'm all for higher speed limits or no speed limits. I remember driving from Boston to Cape Cod and the speed limit on the highway was like 55 the whole way there. It was driving me crazy. People were driving 20+ mph over the speed limit. What is even the point?
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August 20th, 2014 at 4:47:57 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Considering how we still are dependent on a finite resource nobody has been able to replace, I'm not sure it's wise wasting any allowing more inefficiencies. Why should grandma have to pay more for gas because you waste it?


"Grandma" doesn't pay any more for gas than I do unless she chooses a higher-priced location to purchase it from, which isn't my problem.

Also, I don't think forcing me to stop (to issue me a ticket) so that I have to accelerate again from 0mph is more conservative than just letting me continue at the speed I was going. Con$ervation of ga$oline i$ not the rea$on poli¢e $top $peeder$. How about keeping the gas tanks of police cars empty? That would save tons of gasoline.
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August 20th, 2014 at 6:10:51 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

How fast should a finite resource be used up? That's an honest question, not a wisecrack.

Some future generation presumably is going to have to use electric cars and more mass transportation. In the meantime some very large, 'constant dollar' [real] increase in the price of oil will wean us off of our current practices [oil can be made from coal; complete exhaustion of all options is way in the future]. Should we just use it how we please, allowing supply and demand to regulate us? Or do you like the European model of making sure gas is expensive as hell?

Or is environmental impact really the more pressing issue?

it's just stupid on one hand the government wanting more efficient vehicles, less reliance on foreign oil, more green energy, etc., then wasting the gains for nothing. Overall I would think a more careful approach would be better than just relying on hope.
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