List of people Excluded from New Jersey Casinos
Interesting reading when bored. Many are known cheats that have become semi-famous while others are known organized crime family members with well known last names. Still others are just down on their luck cheaters and thieves. From the looks of some of these dates and pictures, many have probably passed by now.
Unlawful Taking? That's a law?
If it were a wallet or a purse left in a waiting room, would you want whoever found it to help themself to the contents?
It seems a bit silly for a $20 voucher, but if there's a business that has to enforce these things, it's a casino.
Suleimann Ali Muhammed:
In March 1979, Muhammed past-posted a $1 bet at the Big Six Wheel. And do you know what happened next?
HE DID IT AGAIN!
Some people are animals :(
Quote: EvenBob"On January 27, 2005, Mr. Ho was arrested for removing a $20 voucher from an Atlantic City slot machine. On February 3, 2005, Mr. Ho pled guilty to Theft by Unlawful Taking and was sentenced to a term of imprisonment for 30 days, which was suspended, and fined $200."
Unlawful Taking? That's a law?
I was so pissed a few years ago when I found a bundle of cash with $3,000 in it on the casino floor, that I knew of this law. As soon as I picked up the cash, the words Theft By Taking flashed in my head. Otherwise I probably would have kept the money. But knowing of the law and the cameras in the ceiling, I turned it into security. It was claimed by the rightful owner within 30 minutes and he didn't give me a dime for finding it.
Ed Thorpe:
Arrested twice in Atlantic City casinos, between 2008 and 2011.
I thought card counting was legal in New Jersey.
But I must say, that's one hell of a disguise. It looks nothing like him.
Harry A. D'Ascenzo has been identified by the New Jersey State Commission of Investigation and the Pennsylvania Crime Commission as an associate of the Scarfo organized crime family. Mr. D'Ascenzo has a significant criminal record dating back to 1962 for larceny, extortion and loansharking.
I would leave, but only after saying Hi and telling him to put his drinks on my tab.
Was I scared, NO, just cautious. Great scene in Good Fellas. Actually Joe Pesci talked the director into letting him do
this scene, no script, just about a guy Joe Pesci knew in his old neighborhood.
Ski had a kid about the right age to be Ilber. He slugged a slot machine in AC, $950 damage 30 days. Just for starters
Later he slugged a slot machine, $1,340 and 180 days in jail.
Never pays to be anywhere a time bomb like that is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ifn39Y8V0
Quote: sodawaterThe funniest part is so few people know the law. You could literally be arrested for picking up a $5 chip off the carpet. It's insane and completely lacking of common sense.
Yeah, we should definitely be able to take whatever we want that isn't ours. The other day I took a backpack out of a car with the window down. Cops arrested me. Fucking ridiculous.
Quote: sabreYeah, we should definitely be able to take whatever we want that isn't ours. The other day I took a backpack out of a car with the window down. Cops arrested me. Fucking ridiculous.
Was the cop black ?
Quote: sodawaterI was so pissed a few years ago when I found a bundle of cash with $3,000 in it on the casino floor, that I knew of this law. As soon as I picked up the cash, the words Theft By Taking flashed in my head. Otherwise I probably would have kept the money. But knowing of the law and the cameras in the ceiling, I turned it into security. It was claimed by the rightful owner within 30 minutes and he didn't give me a dime for finding it.
I'm not sure how I would react if I were the owner in that situation. $3K isn't a small amount of money, but it isn't life-changing...I might throw the guy a benjamin in thanks. Any more than that seems excessive.
If it were $10K or more, I would definitely give some kind of thank you tip.
This guy lives across the street from me.
"William D'Elia has been identified by the Pennsylvania Crime Commission and the Federal Bureau of Investigation as a soldier in the Bufalino Organzied Crime Family of La Cosa Nostra otherwise known as the Pittston La Cosa Nostra Family.."
Not a soldier. From MafiaWiki, "William "Big Billy" D'Elia (b, June 24, 1946) is a Pennsylvania mobster and current leader of the Bufalino crime family."
He just got released from prison last year, he might be retired now. We don't associate, never even said hello.
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This guy lives across the street from me.
"William D'Elia has been identified by the Pennsylvania Crime Commission and the Federal Bureau of Investigation as a soldier in the Bufalino Organzied Crime Family of La Cosa Nostra otherwise known as the Pittston La Cosa Nostra Family.."
Not a soldier. From MafiaWiki, "William "Big Billy" D'Elia (b, June 24, 1946) is a Pennsylvania mobster and current leader of the Bufalino crime family."
He just got released from prison last year, he might be retired now. We don't associate, never even said hello.
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well, hell, go over and meet him! he probably has some great AP ideas!
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This guy lives across the street from me.
"William D'Elia has been identified by the Pennsylvania Crime Commission and the Federal Bureau of Investigation as a soldier in the Bufalino Organzied Crime Family of La Cosa Nostra otherwise known as the Pittston La Cosa Nostra Family.."
Not a soldier. From MafiaWiki, "William "Big Billy" D'Elia (b, June 24, 1946) is a Pennsylvania mobster and current leader of the Bufalino crime family."
He just got released from prison last year, he might be retired now. We don't associate, never even said hello.
fixed your image
well, hell, go over and meet him! he probably has some great AP ideas!
I love it! The Bufalino crime family. Does that make him Bufalino Bill? Does he shufflino off to Bufalino?
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fixed your image!
Freakin' iPad, useless for formatting things.
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This guy lives across the street from me.
"William D'Elia has been identified by the Pennsylvania Crime Commission and the Federal Bureau of Investigation as a soldier in the Bufalino Organzied Crime Family of La Cosa Nostra otherwise known as the Pittston La Cosa Nostra Family.."
Not a soldier. From MafiaWiki, "William "Big Billy" D'Elia (b, June 24, 1946) is a Pennsylvania mobster and current leader of the Bufalino crime family."
He just got released from prison last year, he might be retired now. We don't associate, never even said hello.
fixed your image
well, hell, go over and meet him! he probably has some great AP ideas!
I love it! The Bufalino crime family. Does that make him Bufalino Bill? Does he shufflino off to Bufalino?
I dunno man, I don't kid about him. My dad's girlfriend knew him when he was a little boy, she said he was charming and mischievous. No one really has anything bad to say about him in dealing with him. A good friend of mine who was an FBI agent on his case also said he was a good guy on a personal level. That was supposedly one of the reasons he rose to where he did; he could get people to get along. Like I said, we've never said hello, in almost 25 years. I'm fine with just saying he lives across the street.
He was in prison for witness intimidation and money laundering, pled down from attempted murder. He was going to kill someone for being the witness to the money laundering. It is all tied into the Mount Airy casino and Louis DeNaples somehow.
Quote: sodawaterThe funniest part is so few people know the law. You could literally be arrested for picking up a $5 chip off the carpet. It's insane and completely lacking of common sense.
one time I lost my phone at the casino and I thought I might have dropped it under the craps table somehow, it wasn't under there but I did find a 5 dollar chip and I even asked the dealers if I could keep it and they were like "ah hell sure why not?"
Quote: Zer0one time I lost my phone at the casino and I thought I might have dropped it under the craps table somehow, it wasn't under there but I did find a 5 dollar chip and I even asked the dealers if I could keep it and they were like "ah hell sure why not?"
haha. casino dealers are not very well regarded for giving advice on the games they deal, much less solid legal advice.
Quote: Zer0well I never got in any trouble so I guess missouri doesn't have that rule or if they do it's only for high amounts, that or security wasn't paying attention or decided it wasn't work the paper work to mess with me over a 5 dollar chip I found way under the craps table.
Missouri does have that same law, but I doubt many of the employees knew about it or even cared.
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/crime-penalties/petty-theft-missouri-penalties-defense
If you had been a minority, though, things might have gone differently.
