Niagara Falls... Slowly I turned...
There are a few posts here about the Niagara Falls casino here, but nothing comprehensive like for AC or LV. Anyone got any current info as to blackjack? I think I read mostly CSMs and high limit. Looks like there are three casinos - one in NY and two in Canada. Am I going to be disappointed?
Sorry had to say it. Perhaps someone else can advise on the casinos as I really do not have current info.
Quote: rhodyBobI am going to Niagara Falls tomorrow to see what looks like an awesome sight - the falls are frozen over. Ok, so there are casinos there too, and hey - how much time do you need to see a bunch of ice.
You're in for a great experience judging from these photos:
Frozen Niagra
Quote: TankoYou're in for a great experience judging from these photos:
Frozen Niagra
I'll enjoy the view of the falls from my 75 degree living room. So much nicer.
Quote: rhodyBobI am going to Niagara Falls tomorrow to see what looks like an awesome sight - the falls are frozen over. Ok, so there are casinos there too, and hey - how much time do you need to see a bunch of ice.
There are a few posts here about the Niagara Falls casino here, but nothing comprehensive like for AC or LV. Anyone got any current info as to blackjack? I think I read mostly CSMs and high limit. Looks like there are three casinos - one in NY and two in Canada. Am I going to be disappointed?
There is every kind of blackjack and also every kind of video poker imaginable. Hey, don't forget about Seneca Casino in Buffalo? Oh and if you go to Canada, remember that you pay for drinks there accept for water, pop and anything non-alcohol. Also if you eat at "Grand Buffet" Fallsview casino resort, ask for a window seat to get the best views of the frozen falls.
Quote: rhodyBobVarmenti must be someone from the realm of myth and legend here. I see references to him(?) now and again, and searching the forum on "Niagara" dropped me into the middle of several threads in which he was a participant, including one with post after post after post of a picture of a bunch of what might be 100 CD currency. Also, his handle was colored purple. Does that mean he's banned?
Stay away from people like varmenti, those people are crazy, thank God when i'm at the canada fallsview casino, the craps table is in the opposite direction to the baccarat asian area. You have no worries because the black jack tables are also near the craps tables.
If you do happen to play at the craps table, look for a darker complexion guy (Regular craps player, Indian I think) named Bob, You can also witness his craps DI shooting his primary numbers 6,9 & 5. Bet those numbers and your vacation will be paid for. I will most likely be there again this weekend.
Quote: geoff
I'll enjoy the view of the falls from my 75 degree living room. So much nicer.
75, seriously? My thermo is set at 67 and that
feels too warm sometimes.
Quote: sodawater75 degrees is entirely too hot for a living room
I go with 68 during the day and 66 at night. 75 is sauna-like
Quote: EvenBob75, seriously? My thermo is set at 67 and that
feels too warm sometimes.
And here I thought he meant 75 degree view :)
Quote: rhodyBobI am going to Niagara Falls tomorrow to see what looks like an awesome sight - the falls are frozen over. Ok, so there are casinos there too, and hey - how much time do you need to see a bunch of ice.
There are a few posts here about the Niagara Falls casino here, but nothing comprehensive like for AC or LV. Anyone got any current info as to blackjack? I think I read mostly CSMs and high limit. Looks like there are three casinos - one in NY and two in Canada. Am I going to be disappointed?
Slowly I turn, step by step ....
Thanks for bringing back a wonderful childhood memory, rhodyBob. I got the reference immediately. I wonder if anyone else did.
I amend my recommendations to play poker at Seneca, and gamble at Fallsview. Blackjack rules are great, 8 deck S17, DAS. The video poker is weaker all across Ontario. Maybe 7/5 JoB at best.
As far as the casinos, all 3 mentioned have quite a variety of table games/slots/VP, but I cannot comment on how 'good' they are. The major advantage of the two Canadian ones are that they are 100% non smoking. The Buffalo casino mentioned is not worth going to, as it was just built as a way to suck money from the poor locals, and has little to offer a tourist/visitor.
I think the restaurants on the US side (Seneca Niagara) are very good, and I've only heard middling reports on the Canadian ones. I have eaten at the buffet at Fallsview, and would give it a B-. The US side I'd give a B+.
You will love the Falls...
Casino Niagara is the "locals" casino, but their table games (much smaller) generally have lower limits. Niagara does not have PaiGow, Craps, or Caribbean. There s a mix of CSMs for BJ and 8 deck shoe games. You won't find single or double deck at Niagara and they don't have high limit room that I know of. Your dollar goes 10% further. It also has a poker room. It features a buffet, Lucky's (steakhouse - pretty good), and a bar/restaurant where you can order finger food (but the Luckys menu is also available there, just ask). It is connected to a couple of hotels and is right next to the Lundy's lane tourist district, which is cool if you want the carnival atmosphere.
FallsView is the "tourist" casino and indeed is strip-sized with lots of table games, connected to a couple of hotel and indoor mall with mid-range stores and restaurants. Blackjack there generally has higher limits and CSM/large shoe games (8 deck). The Asian table section (Pai Gow/Tiles/Bac/Sic Bo) is indeed split off at the opposite side of the casino from the other table games. The tables games area is very busy on weekend nights and quite rambuncious with a live band and lots of drinking (drinking age is 19). I am guessing that the rules may be different in the high limit room at Fallsview.
I think blackjack rules at both are split to four hands, DAS, S17, no surrender, any double, 1 card on split aces (no resplitting Aces) for a .43% game.
I don't know much about Seneca except that it's smoky, table limits are lower, and drinks are free.
From a tourist perspective, Niagara Falls, Canada is a much better choice -- better views of the falls, plus a whole pile of more restaurant and entertainment options. Plus, it's gotta be better. I live there.
Quote: rhodyBobVarmenti must be someone from the realm of myth and legend here.
Pretty much. He was a megalomaniac with a baccarat system based on "partner betting." He and a partner would play at the same table, betting opposites.
I think his initial suspension here was for something minor, but he didn't react well :(
Quote: boymimboCanadian casinos are non-smoking with a smoking area outside. You pay for alcoholic drinks in Canada (other beverages are free).
Casino Niagara is the "locals" casino, but their table games (much smaller) generally have lower limits. Niagara does not have PaiGow, Craps, or Caribbean. There s a mix of CSMs for BJ and 8 deck shoe games. You won't find single or double deck at Niagara and they don't have high limit room that I know of. Your dollar goes 10% further. It also has a poker room. It features a buffet, Lucky's (steakhouse - pretty good), and a bar/restaurant where you can order finger food (but the Luckys menu is also available there, just ask). It is connected to a couple of hotels and is right next to the Lundy's lane tourist district, which is cool if you want the carnival atmosphere.
FallsView is the "tourist" casino and indeed is strip-sized with lots of table games, connected to a couple of hotel and indoor mall with mid-range stores and restaurants. Blackjack there generally has higher limits and CSM/large shoe games (8 deck). The Asian table section (Pai Gow/Tiles/Bac/Sic Bo) is indeed split off at the opposite side of the casino from the other table games. The tables games area is very busy on weekend nights and quite rambuncious with a live band and lots of drinking (drinking age is 19). I am guessing that the rules may be different in the high limit room at Fallsview.
I think blackjack rules at both are split to four hands, DAS, S17, no surrender, any double, 1 card on split aces (no resplitting Aces) for a .43% game.
I don't know much about Seneca except that it's smoky, table limits are lower, and drinks are free.
From a tourist perspective, Niagara Falls, Canada is a much better choice -- better views of the falls, plus a whole pile of more restaurant and entertainment options. Plus, it's gotta be better. I live there.
the high limit room has the same rules except there is no mid shoe entry and the games are all 6 deck shoes.
Fallsview:My initial impression is favorable as to the property, not so much as to the rules. Nice, clean place, usual mix of games - tons of slots, table games in the back, maybe three dozen tables in all, a dozen or so open at midnight when we got here after a drive from R.I. Got into a game called double play blackjack, thinking it was regular BJ with some add-ons. Au contraire (sorry, this is Ontario, not Quebec, nes pas?). Spanish deck - no tens!! Once I found that out, I got out - don't know Spanish Basic. But it was at least a shoe game - automatic shufflers replacing full decks, not CSMs (The term "CSM" means they throw the discards into the back of the machine each hand, yes? Versus shuffling machines which alternate two full 10-deck "shoes"?). Thought "Double Threat" was just an 8-deck game until I learned that it was 8 decks no tens. All of the straight BJ games were from CSMs, so no counting. Triple play? Two people can back you up - you play, they pile on. Didn't get a chance to hit my 12 against a 3 to see the reaction, in fact since no counting, just watched. Straight BJ was all $25 or $50 min. Seemed like more tables for the masses - Spanish, let it ride, yada, yada... Roulette looked like it was some kind of video - a thing looking like an upside down wok in the middle of a bunch of videos. All No smoking is wonderful!! Will probably go back, and at least check out the other casino, although the dealers (all very friendly, English-speaking, non-Asian (not that there's anything wrong with that)) told me these were govt. run facilities, so I assume the 2 Canadian casinos will have the same rules? Will have to at least stop at the one on the American side to compare.
Quote: rhodyBobFor those of you not familiar with this place, the observations of a low-roller:
Fallsview:My initial impression is favorable as to the property, not so much as to the rules. Nice, clean place, usual mix of games - tons of slots, table games in the back, maybe three dozen tables in all, a dozen or so open at midnight when we got here after a drive from R.I. Got into a game called double play blackjack, thinking it was regular BJ with some add-ons. Au contraire (sorry, this is Ontario, not Quebec, nes pas?). Spanish deck - no tens!! Once I found that out, I got out - don't know Spanish Basic. But it was at least a shoe game - automatic shufflers replacing full decks, not CSMs (The term "CSM" means they throw the discards into the back of the machine each hand, yes? Versus shuffling machines which alternate two full 10-deck "shoes"?). Thought "Double Threat" was just an 8-deck game until I learned that it was 8 decks no tens. All of the straight BJ games were from CSMs, so no counting. Triple play? Two people can back you up - you play, they pile on. Didn't get a chance to hit my 12 against a 3 to see the reaction, in fact since no counting, just watched. Straight BJ was all $25 or $50 min. Seemed like more tables for the masses - Spanish, let it ride, yada, yada... Roulette looked like it was some kind of video - a thing looking like an upside down wok in the middle of a bunch of videos. All No smoking is wonderful!! Will probably go back, and at least check out the other casino, although the dealers (all very friendly, English-speaking, non-Asian (not that there's anything wrong with that)) told me these were govt. run facilities, so I assume the 2 Canadian casinos will have the same rules? Will have to at least stop at the one on the American side to compare.
I find the Canadian casino to be a heck of a lot more friendlier than the US ones here in Buffalo NY. and Niagara Falls NY. The dealers are very helpful and the casino doesn't "Stink". The craps table in Canada has quite a few regular shooters, usually $10.00 and up to $15 (two tables) at night time.
Most tables are average $10 - $25 minimum.
High limit room has many black jack tables, bac tables, $25-$50 craps table.
All slots are government run and commissioned by Ontario Gaming (OLG) so they have a set payout 85% on all machines.
the poker room has it's fair share of good/bad/tourist with lots of money played on the tables for a $5 no limit table.
the Roulette/Sic bo Island used to have Video/Bubble Craps but they removed it due to some glitch in the program.
Overall I prefer the drive to Canada because the women are sexier there on weekends. :p
Quote: AZDuffmanThe Indian Casino on the USA was just remodeled and I am told it looks great. Don't forget if you go to Canada you will need a passport. Better view of Falls from Canada.
Actually, you don't need a passport to enter Canada. They will except an international driver's license as proof of citizenship. In Michigan, this license costs about $65 and comes in a special carrying case.
Quote: RivaActually, you don't need a passport to enter Canada. They will except an international driver's license as proof of citizenship. In Michigan, this license costs about $65 and comes in a special carrying case.
What about coming back? You can freely walk into Mexico but good luck getting back that way.
Quote: wudgedWhat about coming back? You can freely walk into Mexico but good luck getting back that way.
It's reciprocal. And, I agree, coming back in to the US can be a real hassle, depending where you cross. I have found that the tunnel between Detroit and Windsor to be the fastest. On the flip side, I have waited for 4 hours to get back in to the US at the Blue Water Bridge in Port Huron/Sarnia. It is especially bad on summer weekends when people are returning from summer cottages, etc.
One other thing about this crossing. ..make sure that your gas tank is full well in advance of approaching the bridge in Sarnia. Once in line, you can not exit and you could be there for hours. It's a fricking nightmare.
Quote: rhodyBobFor those of you not familiar with this place, the observations of a low-roller:
Fallsview:My initial impression is favorable as to the property, not so much as to the rules. Nice, clean place, usual mix of games - tons of slots, table games in the back, maybe three dozen tables in all, a dozen or so open at midnight when we got here after a drive from R.I. Got into a game called double play blackjack, thinking it was regular BJ with some add-ons. Au contraire (sorry, this is Ontario, not Quebec, nes pas?). Spanish deck - no tens!! Once I found that out, I got out - don't know Spanish Basic. But it was at least a shoe game - automatic shufflers replacing full decks, not CSMs (The term "CSM" means they throw the discards into the back of the machine each hand, yes? Versus shuffling machines which alternate two full 10-deck "shoes"?). Thought "Double Threat" was just an 8-deck game until I learned that it was 8 decks no tens. All of the straight BJ games were from CSMs, so no counting. Triple play? Two people can back you up - you play, they pile on. Didn't get a chance to hit my 12 against a 3 to see the reaction, in fact since no counting, just watched. Straight BJ was all $25 or $50 min. Seemed like more tables for the masses - Spanish, let it ride, yada, yada... Roulette looked like it was some kind of video - a thing looking like an upside down wok in the middle of a bunch of videos. All No smoking is wonderful!! Will probably go back, and at least check out the other casino, although the dealers (all very friendly, English-speaking, non-Asian (not that there's anything wrong with that)) told me these were govt. run facilities, so I assume the 2 Canadian casinos will have the same rules? Will have to at least stop at the one on the American side to compare.
Just a friendly reminder that paragraph breaks are your friend. I almost never read walls o' text like this.
Quote: AcesAndEightsJust a friendly reminder that paragraph breaks are your friend. I almost never read walls o' text like this.
You must miss a lot. I personally stop reading things that are: uninteresting; beyond my ability to understand; poorly punctuated; an opinion with which I don't agree and not written with the intention of getting me to rethink my position or point of view; rambling; repetitive. Paragraph length has never been a deal-breaker for me. Not once in all of my reading life (and I am old enough to have done most of my reading the old-fashioned way, with books, magazines, and newspapers), have I even once thought: "OK, that's it. Too many sentences in this paragraph. Stop. Let's move on." I do admit to having, on several occasions, fallen asleep while reading, but never because I got so lost in an overly long paragraph that I lost consciousness. When writing threads here, I don't really think of the process as one that must conform to the same style as other written work. It's pretty much a stream-of-consciousness process for me, as opposed to writing for work, or to a newspaper, or even notes to a friend. In fact, looking over the paragraph you comment on, I find fault more with the fact that I did tend to repeat myself, more than with the lack of whitespace between the sentences. Now run-on sentences, that's a different story, but again my "thinking style", when writing here, does tend to ramble, and so, again because of the forum (meaning the place where I am writing, rather than the fact that this, in truth, truly a "forum", does tend to make for longer, more expansive thoughts, which, I do admit, cause me to write longer than average sentences. But they are sentences, even if overly long. How to break them up so as to avoid their being qualified as "walls 'o text"? I worked at a bank once, and the president of the bank once inserted, deep in the body of some loan document full of truth-in-lending crap that no one reads, the phrase "and if you call the bank and told them you read this sentence, we will give you $10." He never once, ever, had to pay off that $10 bet, and so, in the same vein, just to test your theory that paragraph breaks are my friend, rather than just a casual acquaintance, let's just see how many folks here get this far down in what even I, at this point, concede is the Berlin Wall 'O Text. If you see this, please respond to this message with an acknowledgement that you have read down this far. If nobody replies in this manner, then I guess you're right. Oh, and by the way, paragraphing aside, did you have an opinion about the topic I wrote about?
I ask my teenage grand daughter Belle Starr to wind down the car window. She asked me why I always said wind down.
I could have answered 3rd base, but she would not have understood that either.
Slowly I Turned http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr6VBg1SiYI
Quote: beachbumbabsI read the ....
I did, too, in the hopes that the punch line would be funny. It wasn't.
As an undergrad, I had a chem prof that had such a maxi-paragraph of instructions on the cover page of the exam. About 3/4 of the way down, he included the statement, "For problem #3, you may sign your name in place of the solution and receive full credit." During the exam, one student asked a question for clarification of problem #3. The professor somberly provided the answer, while a few students looked around smiling to one another.
