NicksGamingStuff
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February 9th, 2012 at 12:00:41 PM permalink
Bob they do, go to your gym.
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February 9th, 2012 at 12:06:32 PM permalink
Never seen one before.

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February 9th, 2012 at 12:13:51 PM permalink
Let me try to catch up.

The Empire State Building is 1454 feet high and 102 floors. The Stratosphere is 1149 feet high. So, using the same ratio of feet to floors, the Stratosphere would be 80.6 floors high. It wouldn't surprise me if the distance from floor to ceiling in the Empire State Building is not as high as modern buildings. It seems old hotels at least tend to have low ceilings.

About the $500 sweatshirt, let's keep the pledges coming! Seriously, I have all the sweatshirts I need. Now that I've got my t-shirt the pressure is off.

Bob, get with it! I take it you haven't been to a gym in a while (said in a joking way).

Maybe one of the science people on the forum can explain why, but I find climbing those machines easier than real stairs. Same with running machines.

That is a good question about people that quit half way. They must have to walk down. Half way up would not be a good place to have a heart attack.
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February 9th, 2012 at 12:28:03 PM permalink
On the "escalator" machines, the treads are moving down, so you don't have to lift your weight the full height of the stair. It is easier than climbing real stairs.
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February 9th, 2012 at 12:47:50 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

On the "escalator" machines, the treads are moving down, so you don't have to lift your weight the full height of the stair. It is easier than climbing real stairs.



Plus you don't have to turn right every few steps to take the next flight, so you can keep a steadier rhythm on a machine.
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February 9th, 2012 at 12:54:43 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

On the "escalator" machines, the treads are moving down, so you don't have to lift your weight the full height of the stair. It is easier than climbing real stairs.

That is a VERY slight advantage, countered by the disadvantage of being on footing that is less steady than a real escalator, and much less steady than stairs.

And although you're not really lifting your weight, all the same muscles are involved in maintaining balance while "climbing." As a result, the workout is very nearly identical to stairs.

It's only if you support some of your weight on the handrails that you aren't getting a full workout.
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February 9th, 2012 at 1:27:38 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard


Bob, get with it! I take it you haven't been to a gym in a while



Last gym membership expired in '96 and I
got no plans. If they had these in '96 I
never saw them.
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February 9th, 2012 at 3:56:39 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

That is a VERY slight advantage, countered by the disadvantage of being on footing that is less steady than a real escalator, and much less steady than stairs.

And although you're not really lifting your weight, all the same muscles are involved in maintaining balance while "climbing." As a result, the workout is very nearly identical to stairs.

It's only if you support some of your weight on the handrails that you aren't getting a full workout.



I have to disagree. The bulk of the work climbing real stairs is hefting our own body weight. On the machine, the work is mainly lifting the weight of your legs. It is somewhat equvalent to performing squats vs. jogging in place.
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February 9th, 2012 at 5:38:40 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I have to disagree. The bulk of the work climbing real stairs is hefting our own body weight. On the machine, the work is mainly lifting the weight of your legs. It is somewhat equvalent to performing squats vs. jogging in place.

Think so?

Try it on two escalators - maintaining your position on an up escalator, and a down escalator.

I'll bet you say it's easier on the up escalator.
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February 9th, 2012 at 6:32:20 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Think so?

Try it on two escalators - maintaining your position on an up escalator, and a down escalator.

I'll bet you say it's easier on the up escalator.



There's no escalator where the Wiz is gonna be !

I believe that the difference is in fact the fact that
you have done more work climbing the stairs, the
work being the distance x the weight that you have
moved vertically, ie the Wiz's body weight.
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