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NowTheSerpent
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December 1st, 2011 at 2:12:16 PM permalink
Which is the best playing card, air-cushioned plastic-coated paper or all-plastic with papery feel? I've developed sort of an OCD for the feel of shuffling my new all plastic poker cards, and I wanted to hear from you all about your preferences. RSVP.
rdw4potus
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December 1st, 2011 at 2:20:10 PM permalink
I LOVE my Kem all-plastic cards. they're even dishwasher safe!
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December 1st, 2011 at 2:32:46 PM permalink
My favorite is the paper made COPAG playing cards.
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December 1st, 2011 at 2:41:56 PM permalink
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December 1st, 2011 at 2:43:04 PM permalink
I still have about two boxes of Bycicle cards my parents bought. Some Hoyle, too. I've no idea what they're made of. Also two packs of cards from Fremont, because I liked the design on the back ($0.99 each at the gift shop)
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December 1st, 2011 at 2:59:04 PM permalink
I prefer the plastic, but don't care for the price. Paper is great right out of the box, but they don't last a night without creases or bends.
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December 1st, 2011 at 3:03:13 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I LOVE my Kem all-plastic cards. they're even dishwasher safe!



No they're not.

I dare you to prove me wrong!
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WizardofEngland
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December 1st, 2011 at 3:04:31 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Plastic by far. I dont know why casinos dont use them on table games.



They buy paper pack in the thousands for pennies, even in bulk plastic ones can cost $3 a deck with custom printing
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December 1st, 2011 at 5:59:06 PM permalink
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December 1st, 2011 at 6:17:36 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Plastic by far. I dont know why casinos dont use them on table games.


Because of price, and because they get changed out every several hours anyway.
I hate the really cheap paper ones, with the gloss finish, and prefer the linen finish.
For casino work, the linen finish card stock is very fine, the gloss finish less so.
For Bridge, I prefer the plastic cards.
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December 1st, 2011 at 10:54:47 PM permalink
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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:10:17 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Anything has to be better than Paulson cards.



I agree. Great chips, terrible cards. I guess everybody has their strengths...
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December 2nd, 2011 at 7:19:12 AM permalink
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December 2nd, 2011 at 10:31:32 AM permalink
Some of the casinos in Argentina used crappy cardboard cards that looked like they were purchased at a centavo store. No casino logo on the back, just generic cards. At the casino in Tigre it looked like the cards had not been changed in days -- they were bent all out of shape and the dealer had a hard time shuffling them.

Regarding the question, I'll take plastic any day. The only time I would prefer cardboard cards is in doing magic tricks, because the plastic ones are too slippery and difficult to manipulate.
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December 4th, 2011 at 4:04:51 AM permalink
For gaming purposes, I actually like Gemaco cards. In the beginning, I hated their paper cards, but I later used Gemaco cards with a different finish that I liked much better. Sorry, I don't recall which finish was which. I also really like their plastic cards for dealing poker. I like the durability and looks of KEM plastic cards, but they don't seem to come off the deck as nicely as the Gemaco cards. I also feel like KEM cards tend to get soft - particularly if you're sharing decks with other dealers.

For recreational purposes, I'm partial to standard-index Bicycle Rider Backs.

Paper or plastic? I prefer to use paper cards because I feel as if they are more suited towards everyday run-of-the-mill (recreational) card use. I don't mean that they are better when used every day... just that I don't find the occasion to use plastic cards often enough to justify buying them or carrying them around.
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December 4th, 2011 at 6:07:01 AM permalink
I like all-plastic playing cards more then plastic-coated playing cards.
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December 4th, 2011 at 9:00:46 AM permalink
I was waiting for someone to say, "I prefer Latex...opps! - wrong forum..."

Seriously, some of the paper cards with solid card stock and a good linen finish shuffle, deal, and play really well. I think there called Premium Quality - as opposed to "Casino quality," - which actually means they're pretty cheap, but good enough for government work. The accountants in procurement make the call.

The same applies to plastic: there are bona-fide plastic card sets sold at the dollar stores (los centavos stores) that chip like nothing, but them, there are the Plastic Kem (tm) cards, like $27 for a set of two. Talk about lifetime cards.
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NowTheSerpent
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December 6th, 2011 at 12:51:54 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I LOVE my Kem all-plastic cards. they're even dishwasher safe!

Quote: WizardofEngland

No they're not.

I dare you to prove me wrong!



I will say this: I sometimes like shuffling my Vegas brand (by Heartland) plastic cards while sitting under the shower, just to exemplify how impervious to water they are. I also shuffle the U. S. Playing Card Co. Prestige Bicycle cards, which unlike the former have a bit more "beveled" finish, and so they don't adhere when wet like USPCC Bicycle and Hoyle clear ones or the Vegas ones do. I know that the Prestige cards are about 25% thicker. For the money, though, the Vegas cards are the best for frequent shuffling. I have this technique: I cut the deck in half, and press the two half decks together ("interlace" shuffle). It seems that this is easy to do when I hold the cards so that the card faces are all to my right and hard to do when faces are leftward. Is this just a perception or is there some subtle design detail, so that others have noticed this too?
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December 6th, 2011 at 4:05:02 AM permalink
The reason I say they are not dishwasher safe is not down to the fact that they are waterproof.
The water will do nothing to them, thats not the problem.
The heat is the issue, if the cards get too hot they warp and start to melt.
I owned a poker league for two years before I sold out, in that time I bought and tested literally 100's of chips, 20 different types of poker tables and every major brand of plastic card. I got samples of everything, and tested to destruction. None of the cards are dishwasher safe, and I am not aware of any that make the claim. I guess its just an urban myth.
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December 6th, 2011 at 4:06:16 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The only time I would prefer cardboard cards is in doing magic tricks, because the plastic ones are too slippery and difficult to manipulate.



Couldnt agree more, some of the moves I do are next to impossible with plastic.
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December 6th, 2011 at 4:09:48 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

True but they last alot longer and can be reused for months. I think its cheaper long term.



I think I disagree, the plastic cards we had in the league might of lasted 12 months at the very most, and they were used for about 4 hours 4 days a week, so just over 800 hours of play. Paper cards, we got through 2 decks an evening. In a casino enviroment I guess paper cards are removed within 8 hours (if not a lot sooner), I would be surprised if plastic cards lasted a week in casino.
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