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January 10th, 2019 at 2:48:07 PM permalink
Because we're all here partially because of the tracking of baby names, I thought I'd share a surprising fun fact from Wikipedia: 328 girls were named Abcde in the United States between 1990 and 2014.

https://www.vocativ.com/culture/society/people-named-abcde/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abcde
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January 10th, 2019 at 2:52:14 PM permalink
I remember seeing a story recently about a Southwest employee who got in trouble for making fun of a customer who named her daughter Abcde (pronounced “Ab-city”).

I side with the Southwest employee.
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January 10th, 2019 at 2:55:27 PM permalink
Could it be used as a place holder for those with only one name? Many computer databases can't handle blank first name and last name fields.
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January 10th, 2019 at 3:05:07 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I remember seeing a story recently about a Southwest employee who got in trouble for making fun of a customer who named her daughter Abcde (pronounced “Ab-city”).

I side with the Southwest employee.



Yep, that's why it was so surprising that she isn't the only poor kid with that name.

A boy version has been jokingly proposed: 1234 (pronounced Juan Tutrefor).
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January 10th, 2019 at 3:11:06 PM permalink
At first I suspected it was just a placeholder. When I actually made the lists, I noticed there were quite a few with a name of things like "babyboy" or "undecided." However, depending on how you pronounce it, it rhymes with names like chastity, so why not? I kind of like it, actually.
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January 10th, 2019 at 3:17:43 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Could it be used as a place holder for those with only one name? Many computer databases can't handle blank first name and last name fields.



Naw. If they were doing that, there would be hundreds named qwerty. It's hard to type abcde in comparison. :)
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January 10th, 2019 at 3:28:02 PM permalink
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Naw. If they were doing that, there would be hundreds named qwerty. It's hard to type abcde in comparison. :)



Good point. I have come across many folks with first or last names of "FNU" (first name unknown) or "LNU" (last name unknown). A single name (but often very long) is common in a few countries.

As for "Abcde", there's a vowel missing which makes it difficult to know how to pronounce it. It is too bad kids have to live with the names given to them by their sometimes short sighted parents. It's not like they had a choice. I suppose you could pronounce it "UB-ee-sity", which sure sounds like "obesity".
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January 10th, 2019 at 3:32:38 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Good point. I have come across many folks with first or last names of "FNU" (first name unknown) or "LNU" (last name unknown). A single name (but often very long) is common in a few countries.

As for "Abcde", there's a vowel missing which makes it difficult to know how to pronounce it. It is too bad kids have to live with the names given to them by their sometimes short sighted parents. It's not like they had a choice.



In my head, I was pronouncing it AB-cede, which could be Latin for "never give an inch". (Ab=not; cede = give in or give up territory). Not the worst result. My name, by contrast, is ancient Arabic for "stranger". Ugh.
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January 10th, 2019 at 4:03:53 PM permalink
I have to think Alexa will decline in popularity thanks to the Echo Dot.
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January 10th, 2019 at 4:20:49 PM permalink
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I have to think Alexa will decline in popularity thanks to the Echo Dot.




Yeah, there have not been to many girls named Siri since the iPhone.......
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January 10th, 2019 at 4:29:03 PM permalink
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However, depending on how you pronounce it, it rhymes with names like chastity, so why not? I kind of like it, actually.



There is also the name 1234 pronounced Juan Tutrefir
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January 11th, 2019 at 8:09:01 AM permalink
Naming a human is a heavy burden. With our daughter we tried really hard to hit the middle ground between too common, and just straight-up weird. I think we did pretty well.

For #2 (boy), we're having a harder time.

That being said, I think Abcde is insane and I feel sorry for the poor kid.
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January 11th, 2019 at 9:05:36 AM permalink
My mom wanted to name me Byran. My brother’s name is Hayim, but he goes by Hy. Obviously people greeted him with “Hi, Hy”. He thought that was his name when he was little. I think her plan was to call me By so she could have a Hi Hy and Bye By.

My brother is in the process of adopting a boy. They were at the hospital waiting for an appointment. They would call out "Babyboy" as that is what is on his birth certificate or social security card or something like that.

Found this https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/3953580/babyboy-babygirl-name-error .
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January 11th, 2019 at 10:27:10 AM permalink
It's seems that Nmi is a popular middle name.
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January 11th, 2019 at 11:16:13 AM permalink
I think it would be cool to have a name of just one letter, like B or J.
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January 11th, 2019 at 1:41:20 PM permalink
I've read that it was intended to be pronounced ab-city, which I do think has a nice sound to it, but wouldn't ever name a child that. I do think ancient Greek names and those out of mythology sound cool.
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January 11th, 2019 at 3:09:24 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Naming a human is a heavy burden. With our daughter we tried really hard to hit the middle ground between too common, and just straight-up weird. I think we did pretty well.

For #2 (boy), we're having a harder time.

That being said, I think Abcde is insane and I feel sorry for the poor kid.



An advice on naming babies pointed out this very underrated tip. "Think of your Baby's INITIALS. Amanda Shannon Smith sounds like a lovely name at first until you realize her initials are ASS, which is not so lovely sounding anymore. Also Brandon Adam Davidson sounds pretty cool, until you realize his initials are BAD, which isn't all that cool sounding anymore." Good tip.
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January 12th, 2019 at 12:33:18 AM permalink
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I think it would be cool to have a name of just one letter, like B or J.



I've noticed that many websites don't allow one-letter names.

Starbucks is one of those that do, so when I pick up my advance order, it has one letter on the name sticker.
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December 5th, 2024 at 9:54:03 AM permalink
Surely you can't be serious: Shirley was last in the Top 1000 for popular girl names in the U.S. way back in 2008 with a rank of 908. Not surprising, really.
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I'm not sure I know of a Shirley, outside of show business. I Know of people with the last name Shirley, but not the first.
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December 5th, 2024 at 5:23:49 PM permalink
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I'm not sure I know of a Shirley, outside of show business. I Know of people with the last name Shirley, but not the first.
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I used to work with one, around 1996-1997.
I didn't ask her age, but she had me beat.
I'd be amazed if she's still going, after so many years of two packs of unfiltereds a day.

Since then, I believe I've met some Asian women who adopted "Shirley" as an English name, but I'm not certain. (There were surely more Vivians, in any case.)
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December 6th, 2024 at 1:01:55 PM permalink
The name Jeff is dead.

True story: there were seven boys, including me, named Jeff/Jeffrey in my kindergarten class.

Today, the name is dead.
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I'm not sure I know of a Shirley, outside of show business. I Know of people with the last name Shirley, but not the first.
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I used to work with one, around 1996-1997.
I didn't ask her age, but she had me beat.
I'd be amazed if she's still going, after so many years of two packs of unfiltereds a day.

Since then, I believe I've met some Asian women who adopted "Shirley" as an English name, but I'm not certain. (There were surely more Vivians, in any case.)
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Fun fact- certain names, Shirley, Kimberley, Evelyn, were originally place names. And being place names, there were also the surnames of the nobility from those places. And being surnames, they were given to boys as pronames before they were given to girls.
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December 7th, 2024 at 12:53:18 PM permalink
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Surely you can't be serious: Shirley was last in the Top 1000 for popular girl names in the U.S. way back in 2008 with a rank of 908. Not surprising, really.
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Poor ole’ LaVerne always gets left out (quickly quivers lower lip)…
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December 7th, 2024 at 1:14:29 PM permalink
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Quote: billryan

I'm not sure I know of a Shirley, outside of show business. I Know of people with the last name Shirley, but not the first.
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I used to work with one, around 1996-1997.
I didn't ask her age, but she had me beat.
I'd be amazed if she's still going, after so many years of two packs of unfiltereds a day.

Since then, I believe I've met some Asian women who adopted "Shirley" as an English name, but I'm not certain. (There were surely more Vivians, in any case.)
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Fun fact- certain names, Shirley, Kimberley, Evelyn, were originally place names. And being place names, there were also the surnames of the nobility from those places. And being surnames, they were given to boys as pronames before they were given to girls.
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Sherwood Forest was actually deep in the Evelyn Woods.
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December 7th, 2024 at 1:18:36 PM permalink
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I'm not sure I know of a Shirley, outside of show business. I Know of people with the last name Shirley, but not the first.
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I used to work with one, around 1996-1997.
I didn't ask her age, but she had me beat.
I'd be amazed if she's still going, after so many years of two packs of unfiltereds a day.

Since then, I believe I've met some Asian women who adopted "Shirley" as an English name, but I'm not certain. (There were surely more Vivians, in any case.)
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It was just pointed out to me that one of the ladies who recently retired early from the business office at my day job is named Shirley. (She is now spending most of her time entertaining grandkids.)
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December 7th, 2024 at 2:06:45 PM permalink
I had four Aunt Marys. I'm hardpressed to think of a Mary I know who is still alive.
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December 7th, 2024 at 3:21:16 PM permalink
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I had four Aunt Marys. I'm hardpressed to think of a Mary I know who is still alive.
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Pretty sure I have a cousin-in-law (wife's mother's brother's daughter) named Mary, although I don't recall seeing her at any of the last 4 gatherings of that side of the family.

Also know a few others.

It snows less down your way, so I think it evens out. ;)
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December 7th, 2024 at 4:23:15 PM permalink
My family has had a pattern for at least four generations: the oldest male is named after his father, and the other sons are named after whichever Saint's Day they were born on. There were some hard feelings when my generation broke the pattern, but the opposition literally died out. Half of my nieces, nephews, etc., have names I'd never heard of in high school.
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December 7th, 2024 at 7:06:30 PM permalink
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I had four Aunt Marys. I'm hardpressed to think of a Mary I know who is still alive.
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Please explain. Did both your mother ad father each have two sisters named Mary?
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December 7th, 2024 at 7:09:24 PM permalink
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I had four Aunt Marys. I'm hardpressed to think of a Mary I know who is still alive.
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Please explain. Did both your mother ad father each have two sisters named Mary?
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Seems pretty straightforward. Your mother has a sister Mary, your father has a sister Mary, and your two uncles have a wife Mary.
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December 7th, 2024 at 7:18:07 PM permalink
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I had four Aunt Marys. I'm hardpressed to think of a Mary I know who is still alive.
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Please explain. Did both your mother ad father each have two sisters named Mary?
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Both my parents had sisters named Mary. My mother's brother married a girl named Mary, as did my father's stepbrother.
As my mother had two or three step-brothers that she never met, I might have had more Aunt Mary's. Her mother was widowed at a young age and married a widower who had adult children. Some of them immigrated and dropped off the family radar.
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