What did you eat today?
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Too much ideology has gotten mixed in with this over the years.
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I try to keep it personal. If I eat too much, or get too much salt, or too much sugar, I feel lousy....
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I think that "I feel lousy" is the practical definition of having had "too much" of anything.
I divided the results into four and froze two; I just took out one of the refrigerated ones and was surprised to find the pasta had absorbed most of the sauce. I've made this dish thousands of times with various brands of pasta and its never happened before. The sauce I used, Sausage and Pepper, is ranked the 21st-best Rao's sauce and was delicious. I'm looking forward to some of the higher-rated sauces.
Rao's own website and Goldbelly both charge substantially more for these sauces, although they carry a wider variety.
In one of those gift baskets we got for the holidays there is a Maille Dijon Mustard jar. So I’ll be trying it soon. It’ll make EB happy.
Quote: SOOPOOI don’t eat as many vegetables as I should. Tonight made big salad with pre shredded iceberg lettuce, Roma tomatoes, chopped up white onion, Kalamata olives, some hard salami, and balsamic vinaigrette dressing. It was a large volume of food that did nothing to satiate me. Wifey is making ‘poor man meal’. Chopped up hamburger in golden mushroom soup with LeSeur peas on top of mashed potatoes. That will satiate me.
In one of those gift baskets we got for the holidays there is a Maille Dijon Mustard jar. So I’ll be trying it soon. It’ll make EB happy.
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Next time make a big salad but remove some of the veggies and replace with an equivalent amount of moist grilled chicken..or any other animal. A can of tuna even.You get you veggies and some nice protein. It's the protein that satiates.
Quote: SOOPOOI don’t eat as many vegetables as I should. Tonight made big salad with pre shredded iceberg lettuce, Roma tomatoes, chopped up white onion, Kalamata olives, some hard salami, and balsamic vinaigrette dressing. It was a large volume of food that did nothing to satiate me. Wifey is making ‘poor man meal’. Chopped up hamburger in golden mushroom soup with LeSeur peas on top of mashed potatoes. That will satiate me.
In one of those gift baskets we got for the holidays there is a Maille Dijon Mustard jar. So I’ll be trying it soon. It’ll make EB happy.
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I add a scoop of potato salad or macaroni salad to top my "big salad". Some people add a deviled egg or a scoop of cottage cheese.
The deli in my old neighborhood served pumpernickel toast points with cream cheese along with their big fancy salads.
Reading your "poor man's meal", I realize I haven't had a good meatloaf in a very long time. I am fiercely in the mushroom gravy camp, and believe tomato ketchup glaze is a crime against beef.
Quote: DieterQuote: SOOPOOI don’t eat as many vegetables as I should. Tonight made big salad with pre shredded iceberg lettuce, Roma tomatoes, chopped up white onion, Kalamata olives, some hard salami, and balsamic vinaigrette dressing. It was a large volume of food that did nothing to satiate me. Wifey is making ‘poor man meal’. Chopped up hamburger in golden mushroom soup with LeSeur peas on top of mashed potatoes. That will satiate me.
In one of those gift baskets we got for the holidays there is a Maille Dijon Mustard jar. So I’ll be trying it soon. It’ll make EB happy.
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I add a scoop of potato salad or macaroni salad to top my "big salad". Some people add a deviled egg or a scoop of cottage cheese.
The deli in my old neighborhood served pumpernickel toast points with cream cheese along with their big fancy salads.
Reading your "poor man's meal", I realize I haven't had a good meatloaf in a very long time. I am fiercely in the mushroom gravy camp, and believe tomato ketchup glaze is a crime against beef.
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Ketchup itself is a crime, it's pure sugar.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DieterQuote: SOOPOOI don’t eat as many vegetables as I should. Tonight made big salad with pre shredded iceberg lettuce, Roma tomatoes, chopped up white onion, Kalamata olives, some hard salami, and balsamic vinaigrette dressing. It was a large volume of food that did nothing to satiate me. Wifey is making ‘poor man meal’. Chopped up hamburger in golden mushroom soup with LeSeur peas on top of mashed potatoes. That will satiate me.
In one of those gift baskets we got for the holidays there is a Maille Dijon Mustard jar. So I’ll be trying it soon. It’ll make EB happy.
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I add a scoop of potato salad or macaroni salad to top my "big salad". Some people add a deviled egg or a scoop of cottage cheese.
The deli in my old neighborhood served pumpernickel toast points with cream cheese along with their big fancy salads.
Reading your "poor man's meal", I realize I haven't had a good meatloaf in a very long time. I am fiercely in the mushroom gravy camp, and believe tomato ketchup glaze is a crime against beef.
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Ketchup itself is a crime, it's pure sugar.
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Perhaps, but I find it excusable on hash browned potatoes.
Between the sugar and vinegar, it is basically a sweet & sour sauce.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DieterQuote: SOOPOOI don’t eat as many vegetables as I should. Tonight made big salad with pre shredded iceberg lettuce, Roma tomatoes, chopped up white onion, Kalamata olives, some hard salami, and balsamic vinaigrette dressing. It was a large volume of food that did nothing to satiate me. Wifey is making ‘poor man meal’. Chopped up hamburger in golden mushroom soup with LeSeur peas on top of mashed potatoes. That will satiate me.
In one of those gift baskets we got for the holidays there is a Maille Dijon Mustard jar. So I’ll be trying it soon. It’ll make EB happy.
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I add a scoop of potato salad or macaroni salad to top my "big salad". Some people add a deviled egg or a scoop of cottage cheese.
The deli in my old neighborhood served pumpernickel toast points with cream cheese along with their big fancy salads.
Reading your "poor man's meal", I realize I haven't had a good meatloaf in a very long time. I am fiercely in the mushroom gravy camp, and believe tomato ketchup glaze is a crime against beef.
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Ketchup itself is a crime, it's pure sugar.
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It is also disgusting, along with all other condiments.
You are forbidden to say such about the mustards. Or hot sauces.Quote: DRich
It is also disgusting, along with all other condiments.
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Quote: odiousgambitYou are forbidden to say such about the mustards. Or hot sauces.Quote: DRich
It is also disgusting, along with all other condiments.
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I eat almost everything plain. Hamburgers, Hot Dogs, tacos, etc. Just meat and cheese with nothing else on it.
Quote: billryanWhy is adding cheese to a burger acceptable, but a tomato in any form is not? Why is it okay to add bread but not a pickle?
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Very simple, cheese and bread are good, tomato's and pickles are disgusting.
Quote: billryanI'm an extremely picky eater and have a pretty strong gag reflex. I've never understood why anyone would eat something they don't like, or why anyone would force someone to do so.
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It's a way to present sadism as benevolence. Think of it as malicious compliance with Matthew 25:35.
That's why it's traditionally couched in language about starving children in some place they've never been.
If I can't trust you to not try to make me eat something I don't want at 2 AM, I can't trust you at 6 PM either so I won't be eating here ever, at all.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanI'm an extremely picky eater and have a pretty strong gag reflex. I've never understood why anyone would eat something they don't like, or why anyone would force someone to do so.
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It's a way to present sadism as benevolence. Think of it as malicious compliance with Matthew 25:35.
That's why it's traditionally couched in language about starving children in some place they've never been.
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"If the Armenians are starving, they can have my plate!"
With a few exceptions, I'm not really picky. It has to have some salt in it, it can't be overcooked into mush. Beyond that, it's preferences - I'd rather not include cilantro (No, it doesn't taste like soap, I just think it tastes bad.)
Today, I'm having a pulled pork sandwich at a roadside barbecue place. I wish they had a vinegar sauce, but that's not really the style around here.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyHere's something I'm not eating today: anything served at restaurants that have a "late night" menu. It's dogfood, all the stuff that's cheap and easy and that nobody wants, that they try to force on you when they don't think you have a choice.
If I can't trust you to not try to make me eat something I don't want at 2 AM, I can't trust you at 6 PM either so I won't be eating here ever, at all.
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You are fairly new to Vegas, so I'll assume you haven't found the right late-night specials. There are some hidden jewels out there. My knowledge is out of date, but keep hunting.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyHere's something I'm not eating today: anything served at restaurants that have a "late night" menu. It's dogfood, all the stuff that's cheap and easy and that nobody wants, that they try to force on you when they don't think you have a choice.
If I can't trust you to not try to make me eat something I don't want at 2 AM, I can't trust you at 6 PM either so I won't be eating here ever, at all.
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You almost have that correct. All the food served in restaurants is dog food as far as I'm concerned and now it's overpriced dog food. Only fit for a dog because it's invariably overcooked or undercooked and therefore almost inedible. But people wolf it down because they're such abysmally bad cooks themselves they can't tell the difference between good food and bad food.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: AutomaticMonkeyHere's something I'm not eating today: anything served at restaurants that have a "late night" menu. It's dogfood, all the stuff that's cheap and easy and that nobody wants, that they try to force on you when they don't think you have a choice.
If I can't trust you to not try to make me eat something I don't want at 2 AM, I can't trust you at 6 PM either so I won't be eating here ever, at all.
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You almost have that correct. All the food served in restaurants is dog food as far as I'm concerned and now it's overpriced dog food. Only fit for a dog because it's invariably overcooked or undercooked and therefore almost inedible. But people wolf it down because they're such abysmally bad cooks themselves they can't tell the difference between good food and bad food.
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I'll take mine overcooked, thanks! Especially when eating at a restaurant. Few feelings are worse than being doubled over on the bowl.
And I think it tastes better. Food should have a char. Meat, pizza, hot sandwiches I think are all enhanced by the char. Some vegetables too. To slice an eggplant, or slice a zucchino longways and grill it on a charcoal grill can be very good.
Quote: odiousgambitThey say if you are an extremely picky eater all your life that you probably had a strong gag reflex as a small child. People tend to say "my parents made me try all on my plate " which makes it sound like good or bad parenting. Truth likely is in the middle. My folks had little trouble with me so gag problem not there
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My parents made us eat every bite they put on the plate. No leaving the dinner table until it was gone. Sadly, the dog was not a big fan of salad and vegetables so he did not help much. My common play was to put food in my pockets and empty them on trips to the toilet. It was not unusual for my dinner to be over 2.5 hours.
I order linguini in white clam sauce. Menu mentions whole clams. As always, I ask for ‘as much garlic as you can put on without getting fired’. It comes out and all I see is a mass of clam shells covered in minced clams and garlic. Cannot see a single piece of linguini. I was a tiny bit disappointed because I thought it would be whole clams, not minced.
Butttttt….. there were dozens of whole clams under the minced clams and garlic! And some pasta under that as well. Some of the larger garlic chunks were perfectly undercooked.
It was a pretty big bowl but I am proud to say I polished it off. Best linguini in white clam sauce I’ve ever had. I will be returning soon.
Quote: SOOPOOA few nights back. It’s low 80’s so wifey wants to eat outside at Italian restaurant in Spanish Springs Square. Table overlooks the live band that’s providing the entertainment in said Square.
I order linguini in white clam sauce. Menu mentions whole clams. As always, I ask for ‘as much garlic as you can put on without getting fired’. It comes out and all I see is a mass of clam shells covered in minced clams and garlic. Cannot see a single piece of linguini. I was a tiny bit disappointed because I thought it would be whole clams, not minced.
Butttttt….. there were dozens of whole clams under the minced clams and garlic! And some pasta under that as well. Some of the larger garlic chunks were perfectly undercooked.
It was a pretty big bowl but I am proud to say I polished it off. Best linguini in white clam sauce I’ve ever had. I will be returning soon.
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Sounds like a white clam apizza. Apizza is a form of thin crust pizza peculiar to Connecticut but there are enough New England transplants in Florida you might be able to find it there too. The white clam version has no tomato and no cheese, just whole small clams and chopped garlic all over it. It's one of those extreme foods where you either love it or you feel sick from the excess.
Quote: billryanA patron sued Buffalo Wild Wings, claiming its boneless wings were actually breast nuggets and not surgically altered wings. The Judge pretty much laughed him out of court. Wait until the guy finds out what's in the buffalo wings.
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There was recently a lawsuit from someone getting injured by a bone in boneless wings. The court ruled there is no expectation of a boneless wing not to have bones. The plaintiff lost.
If your opinions are at least half as intense as mine, consider this a friendly reminder to say "no cheese!" when ordering.
Quote: billryanCulver's has walleye on the menu, which evidently means a lot to a certain sector.
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Around the home of Culver's, walleye is considered the premium fish fry offering.
Cod and perch are "okay".
Blend them all together, let them ferment for 24 hours in the fridge, and then fry portions at high temperature until the pasta caramelizes
If there is a more satisfying meal on the planet, that comes with plenty of leftovers, I've yet to discover it
Quote: billryanA pound of Rao's rigatoni, a 24-ounce jar of Rao's sausage and pepper sauce, one portion of Michelangelo's Eggplant Parmigiana, a can of stewed tomatoes, and 8 ounces of ricotta cheese.
Blend them all together, let them ferment for 24 hours in the fridge, and then fry portions at high temperature until the pasta caramelizes
If there is a more satisfying meal on the planet, that comes with plenty of leftovers, I've yet to discover it
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And a real waistline buster too if your goal is to expand it which yours obviously is. There's nothing on your list that I would even touch including the stewed tomatoes because they're full of sugar. Do you even know how to count calories? Because the only way to lose weight is to count carbs and calories.
Most of my meals are protein-heavy. My doctor says 3,000 calories a day will help me lose weight at a healthy pace, but I rarely approach 2,500. It takes time to find acceptable substitutes for a diet fashioned over a lifetime. Finding a decent cauliflower pizza was a minefield, as was the search for a decent meal replacement shake. I mostly drink water and use almond milk for my shakes.
It's not about losing weight. It's about finding a program I can live with that lets me lose weight and keep it off.
Quote: billryanMy doctor says 3,000 calories a day will help me lose weight at a healthy pace, ]
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Seriously? If your doctor actually said that he's either a moron or an idiot maybe both. 3,000 calories a day is a weight gain diet because the average person uses 2,000 calories a day just to stay alive so anything over 2,000 you're going to gain weight if you are a sedentary person which at your age and weight I would imagine you are. If you're a 19 year old athlete who burns calories all day long then yeah you can eat 3,000 calories. But if you're in your late 60s and morbidly obese 3,000 calories is a weight gain diet.
I was probably eating 3000(+!) calories a day in the months leading up to a heart attack and surgery.
Many of the nutritionists I've since spoken with agree it's about trade-offs. 3000 calories is better for most people than 4000 or 10000 calories, and suddenly going to a 1200 calorie restriction diet can be a massive shock.
I understand it's really hard to make broccoli or cabbage "bad" for you, short of dredging it in batter, frying in lard, and soaking in a teriyaki glaze.
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Seriously? If your doctor actually said that he's either a moron or an idiot maybe both. 3,000 calories a day is a weight gain diet because the average person uses 2,000 calories a day just to stay alive so anything over 2,000 you're going to gain weight if you are a sedentary person which at your age and weight I would imagine you are. If you're a 19 year old athlete who burns calories all day long then yeah you can eat 3,000 calories. But if you're in your late 60s and morbidly obese 3,000 calories is a weight gain diet.
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That is not so. We burn calories in proportion to our body weight, and as a (poor) rule of thumb we burn around 10x our weight in pounds in kcal a day just being alive. Doing nothing at all. Bill can talk about his weight if he wants, but I am guessing that 3000 calories is weight loss for him, plus whatever he gets from exercise, and the result is loss of 1-2 pounds a month, which is sustainable and not a male health risk.
That is assuming we are treating the human body as a calorimetric bomb in a laboratory and that is also a poor assumption. What happens to the calories we eat is not universal and can vary from day to day even in the same person, because of the energy content of what we pass out has to be accounted for too. Anything which is a fuel or an acid = chemical energy. Uric acid, lactic acid, propionic acid, butyric acid, ammonia in our urine (fuel), hydrogen and methane in flatus, that all counts when you are putting it in terms of conservation of energy. What comes out our rear ends is controlled more by the bacteria living in there than anything else.
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Seriously? If your doctor actually said that he's either a moron or an idiot maybe both. 3,000 calories a day is a weight gain diet because the average person uses 2,000 calories a day just to stay alive so anything over 2,000 you're going to gain weight if you are a sedentary person which at your age and weight I would imagine you are. If you're a 19 year old athlete who burns calories all day long then yeah you can eat 3,000 calories. But if you're in your late 60s and morbidly obese 3,000 calories is a weight gain diet.
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That is not so. We burn calories in proportion to our body weight, and as a (poor) rule of thumb we burn around 10x our weight in pounds in kcal a day just being alive. Doing nothing at all. Bill can talk about his weight if he wants, but I am guessing that 3000 calories is weight loss for him, plus whatever he gets from exercise, and the result is loss of 1-2 pounds a month, which is sustainable and not a male health risk.
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Yeah, no.
"While 3,000 calories may be a reduction for some with obesity, it is unlikely to produce consistent weight loss for most individuals unless they are highly active. Weight loss requires a consistent, sustainable calorie deficit—often 1,500–2,200/day for obese individuals."
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Seriously? If your doctor actually said that he's either a moron or an idiot maybe both. 3,000 calories a day is a weight gain diet because the average person uses 2,000 calories a day just to stay alive so anything over 2,000 you're going to gain weight if you are a sedentary person which at your age and weight I would imagine you are. If you're a 19 year old athlete who burns calories all day long then yeah you can eat 3,000 calories. But if you're in your late 60s and morbidly obese 3,000 calories is a weight gain diet.
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That is not so. We burn calories in proportion to our body weight, and as a (poor) rule of thumb we burn around 10x our weight in pounds in kcal a day just being alive. Doing nothing at all. Bill can talk about his weight if he wants, but I am guessing that 3000 calories is weight loss for him, plus whatever he gets from exercise, and the result is loss of 1-2 pounds a month, which is sustainable and not a male health risk.
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Yeah, no.
"While 3,000 calories may be a reduction for some with obesity, it is unlikely to produce consistent weight loss for most individuals unless they are highly active. Weight loss requires a consistent, sustainable calorie deficit—often 1,500–2,200/day for obese individuals."
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What clanker told you that?
This is what would happen to a man who is very large on a 1500 calorie a day diet, especially if he is old: Oh he'll lose weight all right. But consider that testosterone is fat soluble, and a guy with a lot of fat needs more. That's OK because your balls adjust, and and your weight increases and decreases they keep your testosterone level reasonable. But they can only adjust so fast, and while they do you can develop a very high testosterone level.
What does that do? It makes you feel like a teenager again! I had this experience and was waking up with huge wood every day, punching holes in girls, doing great at the gym, all of that. But high testosterone in an old man does a few other things- cardiovascular disease, hypertension, prostate enlargement or outright malignancy, all things that you usually don't feel until something terrible happens to you. Rapid weight loss due to diet can also entail bone loss and muscle catabolism, and being the heart is a muscle that is something that must be avoided at all costs, if you wish to live.
I do not consider it safe to lose more than 2 pounds a month consistently. So let's use another shabby rule of thumb- 5000 kcal of calorie deficit equals one pound of weight loss. A 300 pound man who burns 3000 kcal a day and eats 2000 kcal a day, or whatever it would take for a 1000 kcal deficit per day. That's a pound of weight loss every 5 days, 6 pounds a month, 72 pounds a year. I would expect to be discussing any of us in a different thread, the Celebrity Deaths thread, if we were to lose 72 pounds in a year without strict and constant medical supervision by a doctor who is willing to shut it down at the slightest sign of trouble.
On a scale of one to ten, I'd give myself a 3, maybe a 3.5. It's trending in the right direction. With the snowbirds getting ready to leave, I'll get more pool time in.
Quote: billryanI walk for 10 minutes, shadow box for 3 2-minute rounds, and bodyblade for a few minutes every day; swim 3 or 4 days a week; and play pickleball when my ankles allow. I ride my ebike a few times a week and stare at the rowing machine almost daily. Lately, I've been doing these lunge/arm swings I saw on the internet. They are fun, but I'm not sure they do much.
On a scale of one to ten, I'd give myself a 3, maybe a 3.5. It's trending in the right direction. With the snowbirds getting ready to leave, I'll get more pool time in.
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Try the girya! Then you will be a girevik, practicing girevoy.
This is stuff you can actually do. You might not look like this guy doing it, but you're still doing it.
I like it because of the dearth of equipment. With some of the exercises I will hit the ceiling if I do it indoors, but easy enough to throw an entire gym (i.e., one kettlebell) in the trunk of my car and go to the beach or park, and swing. (Swing the kettlebell! Not the other kind...)
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Seriously? If your doctor actually said that he's either a moron or an idiot maybe both. 3,000 calories a day is a weight gain diet because the average person uses 2,000 calories a day just to stay alive so anything over 2,000 you're going to gain weight if you are a sedentary person which at your age and weight I would imagine you are. If you're a 19 year old athlete who burns calories all day long then yeah you can eat 3,000 calories. But if you're in your late 60s and morbidly obese 3,000 calories is a weight gain diet.
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That is not so. We burn calories in proportion to our body weight, and as a (poor) rule of thumb we burn around 10x our weight in pounds in kcal a day just being alive. Doing nothing at all. Bill can talk about his weight if he wants, but I am guessing that 3000 calories is weight loss for him, plus whatever he gets from exercise, and the result is loss of 1-2 pounds a month, which is sustainable and not a male health risk.
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Yeah, no.
"While 3,000 calories may be a reduction for some with obesity, it is unlikely to produce consistent weight loss for most individuals unless they are highly active. Weight loss requires a consistent, sustainable calorie deficit—often 1,500–2,200/day for obese individuals."
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What clanker told you that?
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As a side note I've been watching thru_hiking videos since 2017 where are they spend 6 months of the year hiking every day and do about 15 to 20 miles a day which burns a ton of calories. The hikers shoot for about 3,500 calories a day and they have a hard time getting that much quite often so they will binge on junk food like pizza and hamburger and fries when they hit a town. Knowing this and seeing it in action for years you want me to believe some obese person can lose weight eating 3,000 calories a day. When somebody who walks 15 to 20 miles every day needs 3,500 calories just to stay even.
Quote: billryanMy Doctor, who didn't get his "knowledge" from the internet, tells me that a 3,000-calorie-a-day diet will allow me to lose 5-10 pounds a month while staying healthy. I'm going to jump out on a ledge and assume he knows more about the subject than the usual village loudmouth.
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Does your doctor have a bone through his nose and wear a grass skirt and throw sticks on the ground to read what they say? Because that's the only kind of doctor that would tell you nonsense like that. And calling me the village loudmouth is a personal insult and I take it as such. If your doctor looks like this that's where your problems are coming from.
Quote: billryanI walk for 10 minutes, shadow box for 3 2-minute rounds, and bodyblade for a few minutes every day; swim 3 or 4 days a week; and play pickleball when my ankles allow. I ride my ebike a few times a week and stare at the rowing machine almost daily. Lately, I've been doing these lunge/arm swings I saw on the internet. They are fun, but I'm not sure they do much.
On a scale of one to ten, I'd give myself a 3, maybe a 3.5. It's trending in the right direction. With the snowbirds getting ready to leave, I'll get more pool time in.
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Even with that tiny amount of exercise that you claim you do you're still not going to lose weight on 3,000 calories a day. It's physically impossible. I've been on one weight loss diet or another my entire adult life and I know exactly what calories do and don't do. I can lose weight on 1200 calories a day and maintain weight on 1600 calories a day. But you have a magic metabolism that lets you lose weight at 3000 calories a day, pounds a month? Is Ripley's Believe It or Not still in business? Lol
Quote: DieterQuote: billryanCulver's has walleye on the menu, which evidently means a lot to a certain sector.
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Around the home of Culver's, walleye is considered the premium fish fry offering.
Cod and perch are "okay".
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Having grown up on Lake Erie, I have eaten hundreds of pounds of Lake Perch and Walleye. I love them both but prefer Perch.
