AxelWolf
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December 11th, 2015 at 3:24:41 PM permalink
Dear MOD's,

If the back entrance boy actually proved he was legitimate would you allow him back on? IF he were the person he's portraying here, I honestly don't think he has any more of a gambling problem than many posters on here. I would bet just about everyone one of us has gambled more than we should have. I'm not sure his situation rises to the level of an addiction. Perhaps a self control issue, but that's not necessarily an addiction.

There's been other members who have stated they have a gambling problem.

There's been people who certainly appear to have a gambling problem.

I recall an Ahigh thread that may have indicated he wasn't sure if he had a problem and mentioned something about playing on his lunch break.(not picking on him nor saying he did/does)

I think AOS has oftentimes lost more than he planned on, on a few occasions also he has talking about tilting.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 11th, 2015 at 6:41:55 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Re: "justify a banning:" I thought you had absolute discretion to suspend and ban whenever you want, without recourse.



Come on MrV, you know that 1BB is irreplaceable!
MrV
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December 11th, 2015 at 6:52:44 PM permalink
You don't get my drift.

I am not questioning their right to ban, in fact I encourage it.

Lot of dead wood to clean off the beach.
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AxelWolf
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December 11th, 2015 at 7:08:24 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

You don't get my drift.

I am not questioning their right to ban, in fact I encourage it.

Lot of dead wood to clean off the beach.

sometimes dead wood = adds character
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Mosca
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December 11th, 2015 at 8:40:37 PM permalink
How nests I thought the Kentry persona was more fun and interesting than whoever he replaced. I thought it was funny as hell.
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cmlotito
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December 11th, 2015 at 9:39:14 PM permalink
Damn, finally a post where I have quite a bit of knowledge about, gift card fraud. Too bad Kentry has been banned. For what it is worth, to the best of my knowledge, here is what might have caused the card to have been fraudulent.

A few of years ago my company was informed that a new scam to be aware of with gift cards was as follows. The scammers would apply stickers to un activated gift cards that are sitting out on display. When the cards are purchased, the cashier has to scan the barcode on the back of the card. Instead of scanning the barcode that belongs to the card inside the package, the barcode that is scanned is actually the sticker that is applied over the existing barcode and the card that is activated is already in possession of the scammer. Periodically the scammer would check the balances on his long list of un activated gift cards to see if any of the stickers he applied to cards in retail stores has been scanned. Once he sees one is active, he would immediately use the card and empty the balance.

To combat this scam, the gift card companies no longer leave the barcodes exposed on the credit card gift cards, Visa, MC, and Amex. There is a perforated piece of cardboard that must be removed by the cashier. I always make sure my cashiers are aware that they are not to activate any gift cards that have the perforated cardboard missing. And I highly suggest the same for anyone reading this. Do not purchase any credit card gift card where the cover on the barcode is missing.

Hope this was more interesting and useful than a Kentry post, if not, I apologize.
AxelWolf
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December 11th, 2015 at 9:40:34 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

How nests I thought the Kentry persona was more fun and interesting than whoever he replaced. I thought it was funny as hell.

I may agree if he was not just making up crap. I say if he's willing to verify he's real he should be allowed back.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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December 11th, 2015 at 9:46:00 PM permalink
Quote: cmlotito

Damn, finally a post where I have quite a bit of knowledge about, gift card fraud. Too bad Kentry has been banned. For what it is worth, to the best of my knowledge, here is what might have caused the card to have been fraudulent.

A few of years ago my company was informed that a new scam to be aware of with gift cards was as follows. The scammers would apply stickers to un activated gift cards that are sitting out on display. When the cards are purchased, the cashier has to scan the barcode on the back of the card. Instead of scanning the barcode that belongs to the card inside the package, the barcode that is scanned is actually the sticker that is applied over the existing barcode and the card that is activated is already in possession of the scammer. Periodically the scammer would check the balances on his long list of un activated gift cards to see if any of the stickers he applied to cards in retail stores has been scanned. Once he sees one is active, he would immediately use the card and empty the balance.

To combat this scam, the gift card companies no longer leave the barcodes exposed on the credit card gift cards, Visa, MC, and Amex. There is a perforated piece of cardboard that must be removed by the cashier. I always make sure my cashiers are aware that they are not to activate any gift cards that have the perforated cardboard missing. And I highly suggest the same for anyone reading this. Do not purchase any credit card gift card where the cover on the barcode is missing.

Hope this was more interesting and useful than a Kentry post, if not, I apologize.

I'm sure someone will find a way to open them insert bogus bar code and glue them back together and return them.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
cmlotito
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December 11th, 2015 at 10:03:34 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm sure someone will find a way to open them insert bogus bar code and glue them back together and return them.



Probably will happen some day.

The big thing now is people altering existing credit card's magnetic strip information with a different credit card number and using that card to pay for merchandise, almost always gift cards. I see this almost every week at my store. I am quite good at spotting the altered cards and either not accepting them as a form of payment to outright calling the police on the scammers. Most recently I called the police on person two days ago for attempting to use an altered credit card to purchase a $300 Visa gift card. I could clearly see another set of numbers below the numbers he reprinted on the card when reflecting light off it. Some forgeries are quite good and some are not. In my experience, no matter how good the forgery, there is almost always an indicator screaming at me "don't accept this card, it has been altered."

Next to casino gambling, catching people using altered credit cards (and fake checks) is probably my favorite thing to do. Not sure what that says about me, guess that's just the way I'm wired.
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December 11th, 2015 at 10:13:14 PM permalink
Quote: cmlotito

Probably will happen some day.

The big thing now is people altering existing credit card's magnetic strip information with a different credit card number and using that card to pay for merchandise, almost always gift cards. I see this almost every week at my store. I am quite good at spotting the altered cards and either not accepting them as a form of payment to outright calling the police on the scammers. Most recently I called the police on person two days ago for attempting to use an altered credit card to purchase a $300 Visa gift card. I could clearly see another set of numbers below the numbers he reprinted on the card when reflecting light off it. Some forgeries are quite good and some are not. In my experience, no matter how good the forgery, there is almost always an indicator screaming at me "don't accept this card, it has been altered."

Next to casino gambling, catching people using altered credit cards (and fake checks) is probably my favorite thing to do. Not sure what that says about me, guess that's just the way I'm wired.



When I worked as a bank teller (another life ago), that was a real high point, finding counterfeit as it came in so they could id the customer that passed it. Most of it came out of commercial deposits, but a fair amount was people trying a fast one. So I get your enthusiasm for catching the problem (and the thief) right then.

Also appreciated your tips on the gift card frauds. I give them every year to my nieces and nephews. Nice to know what to look for. I have seen a few with the stickers without realizing what the scam was, and wondered why they were stickered; good to have that question answered, though if I'd realized at the time what was going on, I would've pulled them from the store display.
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