Gandler
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January 25th, 2015 at 12:33:07 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

From my minor understanding of law, the ADA is always talking about fairness to "employees", not customers. I think business has to have handicap parking and accessible doors, other than that they have a right to refuse service to anyone? I don't know how it works, but I know it causes undo hardship on the player for no reason that I can see, other than meanness. Oh, and the player is a perpetual tipper.



ADA does a lot for both customers and employees. There are a lot of obscure requirements even as far as mirror height and sink height etc...

They have a right to refuse service to anyone, but not because of discrimination (they can't refuse because of race, religion, gender, handicap/ genetic condition etc.... , so they could not refuse somebody because he was in a wheel chair).
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January 25th, 2015 at 6:20:14 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

ADA does a lot for both customers and employees. There are a lot of obscure requirements even as far as mirror height and sink height etc...

They have a right to refuse service to anyone, but not because of discrimination (they can't refuse because of race, religion, gender, handicap/ genetic condition etc.... , so they could not refuse somebody because he was in a wheel chair).



That's my understanding as well; if a refused ADA customer were to sue, the casino would have to prove the refusal was not solely based on inability to accommodate the disability. Otherwise, they'd be out of compliance and liable.
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January 25th, 2015 at 8:40:55 PM permalink
Certain problems do arise. One is non-English at a poker table. Another is a person with claimed back pain getting a massage from his companion who is standing behind him as he sits. (Obviously the masseuse can see some cards and give signals). Few casinos refuse stools to craps players. On the old Palm Beach Princess there were often more stools at the craps tables as standees. There is usually a request that the shooter stand while shooting and most people comply without complaint realizing that it for game security purposes.

Yes, there are concepts of aisle space, space for waitresses, drink spilling, crowd flow and emergencies. The main concern for a casino is game protection. Wheel chair at a table... ever see a floor person take a compass and walk around the table with it. He is not trying to find which direction is North. He is just trying to see if the needle moves when he passes that wheel chair. If it does, he knows someone will be using magnetic dice and the wheel chair will contain a strong electromagnet. Most of the time, that cheap compass never waivers at all, but its there in the pit for a reason and they do use it.

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