I had been looking forward to this program,
I thought the promo teasers for the past
month were pretty cool.
Gotta love the line "I'm the law in this
town, and I'll decide who's breakin' it".
Anyway, it wasn't quite as good as I
had hoped, but I'll watch it again next
week to see how the plot and characters
develop.
A writing credit goes to Nicholas
Pileggi, who wrote the book
CASINO, followed by the movie
with DeNiro, Pesci, and Stone.
I thought Dennis Quaid was a bit old to be playing such a tough guy; I mean really, would a city the size of Las Vegas hire a man who was pushing 60 and never worked for their police force before to be the new sheriff, based solely on something he did 15 years ago?
One thing I noticed that should have been caught by someone: Towards the end when they arrested the guy, he didn't say, "Don't I get one phone call?" Instead he immediately asked for his attorney, the cops backed off the way they would have to do today, and the lawyer started complaining that his client's civil rights were being violated. I'm not sure what part of 60s this is supposed to be, but I seriously doubt an accused murderer's "civil rights" would have been an issue.
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One thing I noticed that should have been caught by someone: Towards the end when they arrested the guy, he didn't say, "Don't I get one phone call?" Instead he immediately asked for his attorney, the cops backed off the way they would have to do today, and the lawyer started complaining that his client's civil rights were being violated. I'm not sure what part of 60s this is supposed to be, but I seriously doubt an accused murderer's "civil rights" would have been an issue.
I don't know the exact time frame, and I missed the show. But Miranda v. Arizona was decided in 1966, so if it's set right after that point then maybe the whole "civil rights" thing would have been an especially touchy subject.
For the reasons they mentioned and because they were around in those days.
You guys are like the Statler and Waldorf of WOV,
I may not always agree with you but you are
Two of the reasons I tune in.
I wish you guys had a radio show....
:)
Quote: tsmithI watched it. I'm not sure I cared for it. Other than the period costumes and hairdos (which weren't all that authentic anyway) it was just another cop show.
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If they don't get a good scripts, they're just throwing money away on sets and actor salaries.
Quote: WongBo
I wish you guys had a radio show....
:)
Bob and Buzz could fill the shoes left by the Car Talk guys!
Quote: WongBoI defer and trust the judgment of buzzpaff and EvenBob on this,
For the reasons they mentioned and because they were around in those days.
You guys are like the Statler and Waldorf of WOV,
I may not always agree with you but you are
Two of the reasons I tune in.
I wish you guys had a radio show....
:)
I applaud the Statler and Waldorf reference!!!
Dangerously close to suspension for reasons of insanity.
Quote: aceofspadesI applaud the Statler and Waldorf reference!!!
We do not look like Muppets. At least I don't..
But I am old enough to remember Wilkins coffee commercials, the first tv appearance of any Muppet.
Quote: EvenBobWe do not look like Muppets. At least I don't..
Oh boy seems like all the board members are sensitive lately (including me)
BOB- I was not implying you look like a muppet - I was merely stating that a reference to the curmudgeonly duo in the balcony is always welcome.
Quote: buzzpaffHey Screw the editorial comments. get back to winning MONEY !
I posted an update Buzz...
Quote: aceofspades
BOB- I was not implying you look like a muppet -
Buzz is on the left..
Notice Bob is the one with the open mouth as he can never shut up.
PS Mission Statement of a known fact is not an insult.
Yeah, he was quite a character as a sheriff and its a questionably good idea for a show, but its all based on images and vague references to bodies out in the desert and skimming .... no substance, just hype.Quote: rxwineIf they don't get a good scripts, they're just throwing money away on sets and actor salaries.
Reminds me of a cartoon from the early days of television when shows such as Palladin, Doctor Kilgare reigned supreme: a guy brought in an idea for a new show: A man dressed as a surgeon and carrying the scales of justice sitting astride his horse. The cartoon's caption was "Can't Miss".
The show: slow, boring, shallow ... and not enough tits.
Quote: FleaStiffThe show: slow, boring, shallow ... and not enough tits.
The Playboy Club show last year had plenty of the latter, and it did not help them. In fact, it was pretty much the reason it got unwanted and unfavorable attention
Quote: FleaStiff
The show: slow, boring, shallow ... and not enough tits.
I won't watch another one. I kinda knew this from
the gitgo. It just sounded like a boring idea for
a TV show.
I'm still waiting for the producers to get back to me. :)
Quote: JohnnyQAnyone else watch this last night ?
A writing credit goes to Nicholas
Pileggi, who wrote the book
CASINO, followed by the movie
with DeNiro, Pesci, and Stone.
Just watched online, not bad. Some room to grow the charachters, though it might have been better as a cable show.
Anyone else notice:
-IIRC, dated as "1960" but the thunbderbird was at least a 1961
-Producers put a "Whites Only" sign on the bathroom but not one cigarette smoked the entire show
I'm sure there are other similar errors we can find. Why can't I just enjoy a show once in awhile?
Quote: AZDuffmanJust watched online, not bad. Some room to grow the charachters, though it might have been better as a cable show.
Anyone else notice:
-IIRC, dated as "1960" but the thunbderbird was at least a 1961
-Producers put a "Whites Only" sign on the bathroom but not one cigarette smoked the entire show
I'm sure there are other similar errors we can find. Why can't I just enjoy a show once in awhile?[/
The T Bird looked like a '63 to me. The Lincoln, Caddy and police cars were '61 and '62. Granted there could have been 1961 cars at the tail end of 1960 but it's a stretch.Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
Is writer Nicholas Pileggi related to Mitch Pileggi, who played Walter Skinner on the X-Files?
Quote: Johnzimboi was kinda watching it but not fully paying attention. What was the purpose of the motorcycle stealing a slot machine? Just to show that the gang was up to no good?
Pretty much. I think it also demonstrated just how "Wild" the west was, even in 1960.
Quote: AyecarumbaPretty much. I think it also demonstrated just how "Wild" the west was, even in 1960.
In 1960, the wild west and cowboy theme permeated
Vegas. Even in the mid 70's, when I started going,
there was a lot of emphasis on a western theme.
Thank god its mostly gone now. Now when tourists
see the big neon cowboy and cowgirl Downtown, they
don't really know that in the 40's and 50's Vegas was
all about the wild west, and cowboy hats and string
ties and all that crap. Shudder..
Signage was a cutesy Hollywood touch, very artificial. Probably not authentic at all for the time or place, although Sammy Davis Jr. did complain that he could work in Vegas, but not rent a room there or dance with a white woman there. That Dealer with a wrist watch and a high value chip under it was pure hokey. Watches and pockets were banned even back then.
Producers often want realistic costumes and prices and products in the background but sometimes it can be overdone. Hiring teamsters to drive all the old cars as background traffic can be expensive. And no proud owner wants dust or mud on his vehicle during the filming no matter how unrealistic it looks to have all those background cars going by looking all clean and shiny.
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Signage was a cutesy Hollywood touch, very artificial. Probably not authentic at all for the time or place, although Sammy Davis Jr. did complain that he could work in Vegas, but not rent a room there or dance with a white woman there. That Dealer with a wrist watch and a high value chip under it was pure hokey. Watches and pockets were banned even then.
While that Vegas was segregated is not disputed the sign looked fake. First most signs I've sen say "white" not "whites only." Second it looked like an employee only area where segregated restrooms would be less likely. I still find the lack of smoking noticible. Almost half of adults smoked them
The watch is a maybe. In Pelehgi's book Rosenthal claims he caught a dealer same as Chicklis did. That was late 60s.
for greatness with Dennis Quaid and Michael Chiklis is at
least equal to the potential for mediocrity.
I'd like to see cameo appearances by Oscar Goodman
and the Wiz. James Caan would be a huge bonus too.
forum that the cars were all wrong, they were from 1963
and 61 and 64. I wasn't paying attention but I will be next
time.
Quote: EvenBobI'll watch one more ep. Somebody mentioned in another
forum that the cars were all wrong, they were from 1963
and 61 and 64. I wasn't paying attention but I will be next
time.
fROM THIS THREAD " The T Bird looked like a '63 to me. The Lincoln, Caddy and police cars were '61 and '62. Granted there could have been 1961 cars at the tail end of 1960 but it's a stretch.
It's like being at UCLA film school.
I thought Dennis Quaid was way too old to be believable in this role. Chiklis was well-cast though.
I caught a couple modern-day clichés thrown around that couldn't have been in vogue back then. And that big watch looked like a modern Rolex to me. McCarran was tiny; I guess that's true.
Quote: WongBoI love that the show is being picked apart for set design and continuity...
It's like being at UCLA film school.
I'll add one then. Chicklis said "it blocks the eye." In 1960 at most they had catwalks. No cameras would have been feasable.
Quote: zippyboyI thought downtown area was terrible. They showed authentic signage (Golden Nugget and Horseshoe) next to bogus places like the Savoy (written in a modern script typeface). Then there was the Mint with its unmistakable pink swoosh canopy lights out front, except the producers called it something else entirely. That scene flew by so fast I didn't catch the name, but it wasn't the Mint. Then they showed the Boulder Club, with its correct sign, but the Boulder Club burned down in 1960 and became part of the Horseshoe. The producers didn't do their homework and the whole thing loses credibility.
I thought Dennis Quaid was way too old to be believable in this role. Chiklis was well-cast though.
I caught a couple modern-day clichés thrown around that couldn't have been in vogue back then. And that big watch looked like a modern Rolex to me. McCarran was tiny; I guess that's true.
This reminds me of the movie "About Last Night", with Rob Lowe and Demi Moore. It was filmed in Chicago, and some of it took place in a bar on Division St called Mother's. I happened to be in that area when the movie came out, and we used to frequent Division St.
The catch was, the movie supposedly showed them in Mother's shooting basketballs in a basket, except that didn't really exist in Mother's. It was in a bar 2 doors down called Shenanigans. So the exterior shots were really of Mother's bar, but the interior shots were really of the bar Shenanigans.
Just a useless piece of memory recall from 1986. I'm just tickled I can remember anything from 26 years ago.
I am just hoping law enforcement has forgotten everything past 26 years ago.
Watch the National Geographic channel early Saturday morning: Las Vegas landmarks demolished.
That struck me as odd too, but I'll stretch to think that the "Savoy" was a brand new place, so they would have the latest technology in use.Quote: AZDuffmanI'll add one then. Chicklis said "it blocks the eye." In 1960 at most they had catwalks. No cameras would have been feasable.
Edit: Perhaps it is just my TV, but the outdoor lighting doesn't come across as harshly as the actual Nevada desert. It seems like the sky is always partly cloudy (which I suppose it is on the backlot in California).
Also, didn't most folks still ride the train to Las Vegas in 1960? Air travel was still relatively expensive back then.
Quote:Edit: Perhaps it is just my TV, but the outdoor lighting doesn't come across as harshly as the actual Nevada desert. It seems like the sky is always partly cloudy (which I suppose it is on the backlot in California).
I think it's New Mexico. It certainly doesn't feel like Vegas when they shoot outdoors, there isn't one mountain in the background. Scenes from the ranch show a perfectly flat horizon.
Quote: NickyDimI think it's New Mexico. It certainly doesn't feel like Vegas when they shoot outdoors, there isn't one mountain in the background. Scenes from the ranch show a perfectly flat horizon.
They built the set just outside LA, about 20min
from where Quaid lives. Its the only way he would
do the show, so he could go home every night.
Quote: EvenBobThey built the set just outside LA, about 20min
from where Quaid lives. Its the only way he would
do the show, so he could go home every night.
And the rest of them will be shot there.....
Quote:The pilot for “Vegas” was shot in Albuquerque, Santa Fe and another Las Vegas — in New Mexico — to take advantage of that state’s tax credit.
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