DJTeddyBear
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March 7th, 2016 at 7:42:42 PM permalink
This:
Quote: BedWetterBetter

... Not to mention you avoid the hassle of late night driving, falling asleep at the wheel or getting pulled over by the dreaded NJ state police.

That's huge.

Yeah, the service sucks now. I don't take Academy anymore. In fact, I won't even go to AC unless I'm driving and staying overnight.

But when I took it, I took it from the Cheesequake rest stop, milepost 120. On the return trip I'd nap for those first 90 minutes. Made the rest of the ride easy.
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BedWetterBetter
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March 8th, 2016 at 9:13:27 AM permalink
I never understood the logic of this company when they would send empty buses from NYC to AC just to pick up passengers and not use that opportunity to sell tickets.

The last two return buses on weekdays are the 8 pm and 10 pm. Meaning, 2 separate buses leaves Port Authority at around 4 pm and 6 pm to arrive in AC on time for those pick ups.

Why not just offer that ride to passengers? Even if you sold 10 tickets on each bus, you recoup some of the expense and provide slightly better service on weekdays. But they would rather send two empty buses and lose out on that potential revenue.
DJTeddyBear
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March 8th, 2016 at 10:07:09 AM permalink
Gate fees.

Any bus going into the Port Authority bus depot must pay a fee. Add the cost of a ticket salesperson, and the few passengers that actually want to take that bus don't cover the costs involved.

Therefore, it's easier and cheaper to go to AC direct from the bus company's own garage.

Also, the garage is some distance from NYC. Add that mileage, and probably tolls, and it's not worth it.
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BedWetterBetter
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March 16th, 2016 at 2:25:03 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Gate fees.

Any bus going into the Port Authority bus depot must pay a fee. Add the cost of a ticket salesperson, and the few passengers that actually want to take that bus don't cover the costs involved.

Therefore, it's easier and cheaper to go to AC direct from the bus company's own garage.

Also, the garage is some distance from NYC. Add that mileage, and probably tolls, and it's not worth it.



Fair enough, but there is no Gate Fee for Cheesequake Rest Area on the GSP. Granted, it only account for a handful of passengers on the bus. But if they were to utilize the opportunity to pick up passengers at Cheesequake or another GSP rest area, they can recoup some of their expenses. Word would start to spread that Academy has evening pickup and more and more commuters would find a way to be there. They could potentially have an additional 20-25 passengers per run, which would equal around $720 in fares. This would certainly more than cover the cost of tolls, Diesel fuel and the driver's wage for the trip.

But alas, Academy just doesn't see the light!
SanchoPanza
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March 16th, 2016 at 3:59:21 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Gate fees.

Any bus going into the Port Authority bus depot must pay a fee. Add the cost of a ticket salesperson, and the few passengers that actually want to take that bus don't cover the costs involved.

Therefore, it's easier and cheaper to go to AC direct from the bus company's own garage.

Also, the garage is some distance from NYC. Add that mileage, and probably tolls, and it's not worth it.

I'm not sure about the gate fees at the Port. But Academy runs a lot of regular commuter lines up and down the Parkway and Route 9. Just check out how many Parkway entrances have Park-Ride lots. They're all Academy.
BedWetterBetter
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April 30th, 2017 at 5:58:05 PM permalink
*****UPDATE******

So it finally happened, they made their Atlantic City Run into a Senior Citizen bus tour!

The revised AC schedule now cuts the weekend buses down to a laughable amount. Friday night's last bus returning is 11 PM, Saturday night's last bus is 8PM! and Sunday night's last return bus... 5 PM!!!

I guess they only want grey hairs and people who can't stay up past midnight on their buses.

Another thing I notice is a lot of "cancelled" buses during the week, namely the 2 pm from NYC. They have resorted to outsourcing to Adirondack Valley Tours, where the drivers are clueless on which Casino to go to.

Last night there was an incident, where an Adirondack driver who I assume was hired last minute, went to only one of the pickups at Harrahs for the last bus of the night. Needless to say, there several upset commuters who demanded they send a bus to Resorts for the 8:15 PM pickup as promised on the schedule.

Their compromise was the bus will wait at Harrahs for anyone who shows up by 8:30 PM. So they had to pay $18 for a cab or $2.25 for a jitney to get the bus because the driver didn't know he had too show up at a second stop?

I also noticed on my Presidents Club card, they did not add my last two trips as points towards a free ticket(10 points = 1 free ticket)

So I will certainly be calling and voicing my concerns. Good thing I paid with a Debit Card and save my receipts, otherwise this cheapskate company would probably deny me the rewards. I dread their Summer schedule changes, they'll probably just have 2 or 3 buses going all day and still make mistakes and cause problems for the customers!
DJTeddyBear
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April 30th, 2017 at 8:36:35 PM permalink
Not that I ever would use them again, thanks for the update.
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DJTeddyBear
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August 5th, 2017 at 10:11:28 AM permalink
I was going thru some old email and got a message on 7/20 that says the loyalty program is being discontinued as of 7/31/17.

Here's the link to the web version: http://academybus-news.com/4669-29OO-331B2WLB45/cr.aspx
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billryan
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August 5th, 2017 at 10:57:47 AM permalink
They stunk 18 years ago when I commuted on a weekly basis, and it seems nothing has improved.
BedWetterBetter
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August 31st, 2017 at 5:31:10 PM permalink
And so it would seem, the nightmare is OVER! http://www.academybus.com/?utm_campaign=105864_Presidents%20Club%20Notice%20-%20July%202017&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Mission%20Communications%20US&dm_i=4669,29OO,1B2WLB,8S3L,1

Academy is stopping ALL service to Atlantic City effective Sept. 10 2017. Supposedly, due to budget cuts and loss of revenue.

I knew this day would come eventually, but didn't think it would be this soon. Luckily, I have found very reliable service through Raritan Valley to Sands PA and Saddle River Tours to AC. It's just a shame they had the only game in town for NJ commuters to go to AC multiple times a day and blew it with their lack of diligence.

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