Gamblor
Joined: Mar 13, 2014
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March 17th, 2014 at 8:41:58 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

ok. real=reality by definition. math=real by your admission above. therefore, math=reality by simple substitution.

Hey, you can't math my quotes into suiting your argument...
Gamblor
Joined: Mar 13, 2014
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March 17th, 2014 at 8:49:09 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

In all seriousness, in this case, mathematics describes reality. You should take the time to understand it -- none of the math described discussed here is really all that difficult. Your probability of going broke over any finite amount of time less than 1, but as that length of time increases it gets larger (because you keep adding more numbers to it) and some simple calculus will show you that it converges to 1 as the number of bets goes to infinity. It's just a simple limit; this is literally intro to calculus.

That's it, that's all. There is more difficult math around Markov processes, but you don't need any of it.

I get what you are trying to say. I don't agree.

But that makes me curious...
This is a gambling site, with many people clearly passionate about math..
What is the best game to play "mathematically" if not baccarat banker or player 50/50?.
I see a lot about black jack, is that the best? Against the casino.
What do you play, oh wise one?
Lemieux66
Joined: Feb 16, 2014
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March 17th, 2014 at 8:54:38 PM permalink
Quote: Gamblor

I get what you are trying to say. I don't agree.

But that makes me curious...
This is a gambling site, with many people clearly passionate about math..
What is the best game to play "mathematically" if not baccarat banker or player 50/50?.
I see a lot about black jack, is that the best? Against the casino.
What do you play, oh wise one?

Blackjack counting. Second best thing in the casino behind being a good poker player.
10 eyes for an eye. 10 teeth for a tooth. 10 bucks for a buck?! Hit the bad guys where it hurts the most: the face and the wallet.
paigow1986
Joined: Sep 24, 2013
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March 17th, 2014 at 8:57:48 PM permalink
gpac: Im not a conspiracy theorist, believe me when I tell you I think all those people are looney. I just think its funny that you guys supposedly know it all, when in reality, you DON'T. the only person that deserves any sort of credit on here is mike, and all you guys do is hang off his balls and go along with anything he says. I wish he would comment on the one and only thread that ive started and get his input on whether playing 1 hand at \$30 is the same as playing 6 hands at \$5, LOLZ.

go on and tell me how playing 1 lottery ticket is the same as playing 100, your EV doesn't change. go on and tell me that putting 1 raffle in a drum is the same as putting 100 raffles in a drum, I mean your EV doesnt change at all! LOLZ

now go back to doing what you do best, and telling by your posts on here, it would be playing slot machines at coast casinos and creeping out semidecent looking british girls on tv game shows

you're a MUCH better person than I am, wayyy higher on the totem pole than I! lololololololz

toodles!
rdw4potus
Joined: Mar 11, 2010
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March 17th, 2014 at 9:00:10 PM permalink
Quote: paigow1986

I wish he would comment on the one and only thread that ive started and get his input on whether playing 1 hand at \$30 is the same as playing 6 hands at \$5, LOLZ.

You really need Mike to tell you that 30 times 1 is equal to 6 times 5? Really?
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gpac1377
Joined: Apr 7, 2013
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March 17th, 2014 at 9:02:00 PM permalink
Quote: paigow1986

now go back to doing what you do best, and telling by your posts on here, it would be playing slot machines at coast casinos and creeping out semidecent looking british girls on tv game shows

Do you have any friends who know Vicky Coren? I know she's married, but I'm not looking for a commitment.
"Scientists tell us that the fastest animal on earth, with a top speed of 120 feet per second, is a cow that has been dropped out of a helicopter."
beachbumbabs
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March 17th, 2014 at 9:06:19 PM permalink
Mathematician's fallacy = nonsensical circular argument using intangibles and flawed logic. The fact that one person may be experiencing positive variance does not disprove the mathematical certainty of the gambler's fallacy statement.

Nobody is convincing anybody of anything; it's a classic trees vs. forest argument. I still consider it over-moderation to kill this thread, but I would suggest it can die a natural death if folks simply stopped arguing. Gamblor is a lost cause at best; why waste your breath?
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Gamblor
Joined: Mar 13, 2014
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March 17th, 2014 at 9:23:59 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Mathematician's fallacy = nonsensical circular argument using intangibles and flawed logic. The fact that one person may be experiencing positive variance does not disprove the mathematical certainty of the gambler's fallacy statement.

Nobody is convincing anybody of anything; it's a classic trees vs. forest argument. I still consider it over-moderation to kill this thread, but I would suggest it can die a natural death if folks simply stopped arguing. Gamblor is a lost cause at best; why waste your breath?

False.

Gamblor already won the argument of mathematicians fallacy back at #Reality>Math. Who's wasting breath? Heavy breathers maybe getting worked up.

To kill the thread confirms mathematicians fallacy

And I must conclude that you were asked to close the thread, or you wouldn't have mentioned it. So, this confirms mathematics fallacy and how they refuse to see it. They very possibility must be shut down. Nuke him! His ideas are differen than ours! Burn him, he's a witch! He says the world is round!
gpac1377
Joined: Apr 7, 2013
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March 17th, 2014 at 9:28:25 PM permalink
Quote: Gamblor

To kill the thread confirms mathematicians fallacy

Off-topic, but I'd like to show Vicky Coren my mathematicians fallacy.
"Scientists tell us that the fastest animal on earth, with a top speed of 120 feet per second, is a cow that has been dropped out of a helicopter."
beachbumbabs
Joined: May 21, 2013
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March 17th, 2014 at 9:30:08 PM permalink
Quote: Gamblor

False.

Gamblor already won the argument of mathematicians fallacy back at #Reality>Math. Who's wasting breath? Heavy breathers maybe getting worked up.

To kill the thread confirms mathematicians fallacy

Gamblor's sanity was questioned even before Gamblor began referring to himself in the third person as the authority for Gamblor's contention. Killing the thread would be a mercy, but so far hasn't quite fit the Wizard's definition of trolling. Please do continue, then, if you would like to find that line.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.