March 9th, 2012 at 3:48:43 PM
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SmartLiveCasino, the one thats on TV in the UK, is
cheating at roulette. They have a live dealer and
a live wheel, but the dealer isn't spinning the wheel
in real time. They show them standing behind the table
and they cut to an overhead shot of the wheel being
spun. It you watch the dealer before the spin, they
often have their hands resting on the rail
that goes around the table. When they cut to the
shot of the wheel, in the 1/100th of a second from
when we see the hands resting and no body language
at all that the dealer is going to spin, in that 1/100th
of a second the dealers hand appears inside the wheel.
Impossible unless you can move at the speed of light.
There are no players at the table. Whats happening is
this. The computer figures which numbers hit would
hurt them the most, and selects a number that would
give some wins, but not many big ones. It then plays
a video from its archives of this dealer hitting that
number. Its obvious whats happening if you watch
for awhile. The reason I post this is SLC is a big deal
in the UK, lots of people play there every day. Its
not some podunk outfit broadcasting from Malta.
cheating at roulette. They have a live dealer and
a live wheel, but the dealer isn't spinning the wheel
in real time. They show them standing behind the table
and they cut to an overhead shot of the wheel being
spun. It you watch the dealer before the spin, they
often have their hands resting on the rail
that goes around the table. When they cut to the
shot of the wheel, in the 1/100th of a second from
when we see the hands resting and no body language
at all that the dealer is going to spin, in that 1/100th
of a second the dealers hand appears inside the wheel.
Impossible unless you can move at the speed of light.
There are no players at the table. Whats happening is
this. The computer figures which numbers hit would
hurt them the most, and selects a number that would
give some wins, but not many big ones. It then plays
a video from its archives of this dealer hitting that
number. Its obvious whats happening if you watch
for awhile. The reason I post this is SLC is a big deal
in the UK, lots of people play there every day. Its
not some podunk outfit broadcasting from Malta.
It does not suck to be me.
March 9th, 2012 at 4:09:59 PM
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So its a live shot of a dealer starting the wheel but as it slows its a quick cut to a well-chosen canned shot of the same dealer hitting the well-chosen number. No visual continuity, not even the London Times for that day in the over-head shot.
How long have they been getting away with this????
I can't get onto it just to watch. Pretty girls though.
How long have they been getting away with this????
I can't get onto it just to watch. Pretty girls though.
March 9th, 2012 at 4:16:11 PM
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Quote: FleaStiffSo its a live shot of a dealer starting the wheel but as it slows its a quick cut to a well-chosen canned shot of the same dealer hitting the well-chosen number. No visual continuity, not even the London Times for that day in the over-head shot.
How long have they been getting away with this????
No, there's no live shot of the dealer starting the
wheel, their hand never goes near it. You have
to watch closely for awhile to see the dealer is
always camera center, they never spin the wheel.
Sometimes she'll have a bracelet on and in the wheel
shot she's wearing the bracelet. Big deal, I'm sure they
have any number of shots with dealers wearing different
accessories.
It does not suck to be me.
March 9th, 2012 at 4:34:05 PM
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Is that an affiliate link in the OP?
March 9th, 2012 at 7:05:19 PM
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If they are avoiding the hot areas, and they do seem to show the current bets, you might be able to game the system.
The two spins I watched didn't suggest there was anything odd going on, but two spins is hardly enough.
The two spins I watched didn't suggest there was anything odd going on, but two spins is hardly enough.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
March 9th, 2012 at 7:19:25 PM
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Quote: thecesspitThe two spins I watched didn't suggest there was anything odd going on, but two spins is hardly enough.
Watch at least 10 spins and you'll catch on. The dealer
doesn't make the smallest move towards the table before
the spin because that would be too hard to sync with the
archive shot. So they stand still and there's no way on
earth they can lurch towards the table and have their hand
in the wheel that fast. They also don't spin immediately
after the clock runs out. There is a always about a 5sec delay
which is were the computer is evaluating the bets and choosing
the next number. No real players to validate the spin, no shot
of the dealer actually spinning the wheel, what a racket.
It does not suck to be me.
March 9th, 2012 at 7:41:45 PM
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On Line casinos cheating customers ! I am thunderstruck. If you can't trust nameless , faceless , thieves, who can you trust !
March 9th, 2012 at 7:46:37 PM
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SmartLive is used by a lot of players on gambling forums
and its somewhat trustworthy. Thats why I brought the
subject up. Compare it to Dublin.bet, where you can see
every bit of whats going on in real time. The dealer spinning,
the ball going around, the dolly being placed and the player
payoffs.
and its somewhat trustworthy. Thats why I brought the
subject up. Compare it to Dublin.bet, where you can see
every bit of whats going on in real time. The dealer spinning,
the ball going around, the dolly being placed and the player
payoffs.
It does not suck to be me.
March 9th, 2012 at 11:23:11 PM
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Only some trusted chi-squared analysis would reveal the bias.
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You want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
March 10th, 2012 at 2:02:05 AM
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Quote: boymimboOnly some trusted chi-squared analysis would reveal the bias.
I think perhaps you mean that some trusted chi squared analysis would PROVE the bias but that the casinos odd failure to make the procedure totally live, reveals either "the bias" or a very high suspicion of it.