duh, what does "mathplay" mean in coupons?

as in "$10 blackjack/craps matchplay at Bill's" , a coupon in this American Casino Guide thing.

accoring to wikidictionary, possible meaning could be related to the below but...

1. (golf) A scoring system in which points are awarded for each hole won, as opposed to stroke play.
2. (bowling) A knockout competition between two single bowlers.
3. (sports) The playing of a competitive match, as opposed to training and practice.

It means that the casino will match your bet, up to the value of the coupon.

To use it, you place it in your betting circle, with chips on top of it.

So place your $10 coupon and $10 in chips down.

If you win, you'll be paid $20, and you keep your original $10 bet, meaning you turned $10 into $30. The casino keeps the coupon.

If it's a push, you keep the coupon. Yeah, you can then take it off if you wish, just as you can alter you bet after any push.

If you lose, duh, you lose the bet and the coupon.



You have to read the fine print, or ask, what happens in the event of a split, double-down, or blackjack.

Note: Typically, the coupons can only be used on even money bets. I.E. A craps match play can only be used on the pass/don't pass or come/don't come. It *might* be OK to use on a field bet, but the coupon may pay even money if a 2 or 12 is rolled.

thanks. Sorry to miss-spell the word in the thread subject line

There can be discussions as to the mathematical value and optimal use of such coupons, but when I'm at my local Indian casino they make you jump through so many hoops just to use that matchplay coupon that I stopped even considering it. Besides, I kept losing whenever I did use them.

Just on these coupons, what sort of security measure do the casinos take to ensure these can't be counterfeiter?

There was only one time that I stepped up to a table to use the coupon. I was only going to be there one hand, so I wasn't gonna bother with my player's card. The pit boss insisted I provide it.

I seem to recall the other times I've used them that the pit boss was alerted, and he punched something into the computer.

Therefore, I gotta assume that there's something in the player account data that will catch excessive match play from counterfeits and cause a red flag.

Such coupons are often in mailers ... and that usually means one or two such coupons to any household, so the casino does get a bit wary of over-use. Its not so much counterfeiting as "dumpster diving" or "trading" that they fear. Its a "come-on" promotion designed to lure people to the casino and they figure if you are using so many of them, its more of an abuse than anything else, so then they will point out the fine print to you. They may turn a blind eye to a little over use but if you do it too often they get upset. My local Indian casino requires player card, drivers license, about ten minutes to complete the paperwork and make a photocopy ... not worth it! Not worth it at all.

Quote: FleaStiff

... My local Indian casino requires player card, drivers license, about ten minutes to complete the paperwork and make a photocopy ... not worth it! Not worth it at all.

Ouch. What a P.I.T.A.!

Dumpster dive? Really?


I have used some of my wife's coupons when I've made trips without her - only those that are for slots, and go right into the machine. They have her name on them. I doubt I could pass for her.

If I have to go to the player's club counter first, or it's for a table game, I won't use it.

The MGM-Mirage casinos require you to go to the player's club and present ID for a free play mailer. Wynn, Venetian, Stations, Coast, and Palms do not. About counterfeiting, I heard the Palace Station quit honoring a juicy coupon sometime last year due to counterfeiting problems. Sorry, I can't remember the details.