Tiltpoul
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September 19th, 2011 at 5:28:09 PM permalink
Quote: heather

Thanks greatly, and thanks for clearing up my confusion -- you can tell that I'm not in Indiana very often. I knew that Sic bo was a longshot, but thought that I'd ask. Like I said, the fact that they have both tiles and big table Bacc had me sold right there. Too bad about the a hotel, but I'm in the Chicago area enough that it's not a dealbreaker. Thanks again!



I'm not 100% sure they have TRUE big table bacc... they probably have the modified version where players handle the cards, and you can tear them and what not, but I'm not sure I've seen a tuxedo type table there. Both places do have tiles; Hammond's Asian room is separate from the high limit room, where HSI you have to go through the high limit area... it was just added this past year.
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ncfatcat
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September 19th, 2011 at 5:37:35 PM permalink
Yeah I like Horseshoe Southern Indiana. It's in Elizabeth, Indiana. The bomb though is about 55 miles NE at French Lick Indiana - the French Lick Resort. What a hotel combo between it and West Badin! 2 turn of the century mineral spring spa resort hotels brought back to life by William Cook medical equipment company mogul. I tease the dealers "where's the riverboat? There's no river here just a spring." They'll laugh and say "If you have enough money you can make things happen."
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Tiltpoul
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September 19th, 2011 at 6:28:14 PM permalink
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Yeah I like Horseshoe Southern Indiana. It's in Elizabeth, Indiana. The bomb though is about 55 miles NE at French Lick Indiana - the French Lick Resort. What a hotel combo between it and West Badin! 2 turn of the century mineral spring spa resort hotels brought back to life by William Cook medical equipment company mogul. I tease the dealers "where's the riverboat? There's no river here just a spring." They'll laugh and say "If you have enough money you can make things happen."



For those not versed in Indiana gaming law, the law states that casinos must be on a riverboat. An ACTUAL river boat, that is manned by a coast guard member and it must be able to operate as a boat. However, they are not required to cruise, so in the case of French Lick, they built a moat that the boat sits in. However, it's still a boat, because of the stupid law.
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September 19th, 2011 at 7:36:03 PM permalink
Thanks for all the info. We actually played about an hour in the Asian room, Pai Gow Poker. I won about $250.

We spent a couple hours today at the new Rivers Casino in Des Plaines; nice place, all brand new. I tried my hand at Mississippi Stud; in 2 hours I won three hands, but two of them were 3 of a Kind and the third was a flush. Nevertheless, I lost back the money I won the day before, and Mrs lost another couple hundred. At Pai Gow Poker, I won 3 hands, lost 2, and then played about 10 pushes in a row and got bored. I won that bet, then let it ride to try to get some excitement going and got a 10 high Pai Gow so I left. Still, Rivers was nice enough.
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Ibeatyouraces
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December 22nd, 2017 at 9:14:27 PM permalink
I stopped in Horseshoe Hammond for a bit and got the rules to Play Four Poker. They have 2 tables.

It follows the same type of playing rules as Three Card Poker. The dealer and player each get 5 cards but make their best 4 card hand. There is the standard Ante/Play bet and an optional Jacks or Better side bet. The dealer needs King/Queen high to qualify. To make a Play bet, it must equal the Ante bet. Wins are paid at 1 to 1 on the Ante/Play if the dealer qualifies. Non-qualifiers pay the Ante and Play pushes. If the dealer wins, both bets lose.

The ante bonus pays as follows:

Royal Flush pays 20 to 1
Quads pays 8 to 1
Straight Flush pays 3 to 1

I believe it gets paid even if the dealer has a higher hand.

The Jacks or Better side bet pays are as follows:

Royal Flush pays 200 to 1
Quads pays 75 to 1
Straight Flush pays 25 to 1
Flush pays 4 to 1
Straight pays 4 to 1
3 of a kind pays 3 to 1
2 pair pays 2 to 1
Pair of Jacks - Aces pay 1 to 1

Also, there is no big baccarat table here that I saw.
Last edited by: Ibeatyouraces on Dec 22, 2017
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RisingDough
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December 23rd, 2017 at 12:39:03 AM permalink
I was there last night as well!
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December 23rd, 2017 at 2:08:31 AM permalink
According to my calculations, the ante game has a house edge of 3.219% and the side bet has a house edge of 5.0069%.

The 3.219% reflects the Ante Bonus being paid even when the dealer wins.

As far as strategy, the Fold/Play cutoff is around Ace-Ten high, but isn't as cut and dry as the cutoff in 3 card poker:

  • Always fold A987 or lower
  • Mostly fold AT53
  • Mostly play AT54 and AT63
  • Always play AT64 or higher
DeMango
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December 23rd, 2017 at 10:57:38 PM permalink
JoB side bet: nothing for full house?
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December 24th, 2017 at 12:55:27 AM permalink
You can't have a full house with only 4 cards.
DeMango
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December 24th, 2017 at 6:08:41 PM permalink
Duh, thanks! Thought maybe the original 5 cards were paid out on.
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