Just curious if anyone has inside knowledge on how much he’s being paid to play there and how much other streamers are being paid to play like ladyluck at hard rock and NG at Peppermill. Bluff also only plays at the el Cortez which what seems to be Monopoly money.
Their videos are basically paid promotions for casinos but they never disclose it. Is it a percentage of losses? Upfront freeplay?
The big problem I have with these streamers is they promote reckless and irresponsible gambling. Vegasmatt’s Get even or get even worse. Bluff’s paying the rent or dinner by putting $100 on every number on bubble craps and hoping he doesn’t hit a 7. The least these YouTube sleaze balls could do is put a tag in their videos that they’re being promoted by a casino.
Makes me glad to be an AP extracting every dime I can from these clip joints.
if you think any other youtuber is doing any of this with their own money... and god help the ones that think they can... then you sir or madame are not the brightest bulb in the room
i would classify this as an insult myself ya know
I have seen The Big Jackpot filming in AC. I’m pretty sure Ocean and Hard Rock would give deals out but again I don’t know that they need to pay people to show up.
Quote: WizardMost casinos don't allow videography. The El Cortez is a known exception. I'm not saying he's not being compensated by the El Cortez, but neither am I saying the opposite.
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Most casinos have relaxed their policies on filming. When Vegasmatt started he would film all the time at green valley ranch and M resort. I guess they didn’t offer him a deal since he doesn’t film there anymore.
First off I doubt they’re making anywhere near that. Second it’s been noted many times you cannot write off gambling losses against other income. You can only write off gambling losses against actual gambling wins up to the win amount. They cannot write it off against streaming revenue even though the gambling is what generates the revenue. So if they lose $50k gambling but make $100k streaming, they claim net $0 gambling and $100k streaming income. I have no idea but I guess where they could get creative is writing off their expenses against the streaming vs a professional gambler who writes off their expenses against their gambling income.Quote: ChumpChangeIf the YouTuber is making $100K/month on streaming revenue, all they have to do is lose less than that.
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Quote: VirtualBalboaDid you watch the interview with him that LVA did? Feels like it would answer a lot of what you're bringing up except giving a precise number as to how he's supported by El Cortez. Obviously you are right: they sell the man's merch in their gift shop. Also, frankly, they're using the fact that YouTubers play there as a lure for their viewers. It's not for me but someone out there is really into this stuff given how many events I see now at casinos involving gambling influencers.
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Yep, Dlucky got a bunch of people to pay him roughly $1,800 for The Dlucky Experience and he would tell them how much to bet and when to bet. 🤨 Dlucky isn't even a Major Celebrity, just a VERY minor Celebrity! 🤨 Dlucky Fans complained that they paid roughly $1,800 for the Dlucky Experience and LOST their money, didn't WIN money. 😐💡 The Dlucky Experience was weird. Fans could have just used the money they paid for the Dlucky Experience and add it to their own bankroll and tell themselves how much to get and when to bet. 😐💡
Quote: AdambrooksTotally agree these streamers are clearly getting some kind of deal, and it’s shady that they don’t disclose it. Promoting reckless gambling without transparency isn’t cool.
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With the greatest respect because your concerns are valid and do you credit, I think you are being a little naive here.
The site you are posting on makes its income from sending people to online casinos and them losing money. A LOT of people. Statistically speaking it is almost certain that several hundred people a year that are directly referred by this site and end up committing suicide as a direct result, and it could easily be thousands. That is what is paying the bills here. Human misery.
This site does a better job of creating an intellectually respectable veneer of educational sophistication around its gambling advice than top gambling streamers do, But that is what it is: a veneer. The reality is the same. Just because a site owner recommends basic strategy and don't endorse betting systems doesn't absolve you of the fact you are preying on desperate people and profiting directly.
Quote: AdambrooksTotally agree these streamers are clearly getting some kind of deal, and it’s shady that they don’t disclose it. Promoting reckless gambling without transparency isn’t cool.
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Lady Luck who ONLY does high bets admitted she and Miran actually lose more than they win. IIRC, she said they have high paying careers where they can afford to lose more than they win.
SD Guy had a video called All That Glitters where he was actually UP and then played back his big wins and ended up cashing out at only about a dollar. A Poster said something like,"Wow, that game that gave you good wins didn't take long to turn into complete garbage and take back the good wins it gave you. Thanks for showing us a video where you were up after some good wins and ended up giving back the good wins and leaving with roughly only a dollar. I am so sick of a lot videos where they ONLY show their winning videos, not their losing videos. It's refreshing to see that you posted a video where you ended up losing money, not winning. 💡
Quote: NathanQuote: AdambrooksTotally agree these streamers are clearly getting some kind of deal, and it’s shady that they don’t disclose it. Promoting reckless gambling without transparency isn’t cool.
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Lady Luck who ONLY does high bets admitted she and Miran actually lose more than they win. IIRC, she said they have high paying careers where they can afford to lose more than they win.
SD Guy had a video called All That Glitters where he was actually UP and then played back his big wins and ended up cashing out at only about a dollar. A Poster said something like,"Wow, that game that gave you good wins didn't take long to turn into complete garbage and take back the good wins it gave you. Thanks for showing us a video where you were up after some good wins and ended up giving back the good wins and leaving with roughly only a dollar. I am so sick of a lot videos where they ONLY show their winning videos, not their losing videos. It's refreshing to see that you posted a video where you ended up losing money, not winning. 💡
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Ladyluck and her husband are full time YouTubers now they quit their jobs. The rest of your post is spot on.
The fact the monetization from a video equals like 10 of their bets makes it pretty obvious the casinos are paying them to play.
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The site you are posting on makes its income from sending people to online casinos and them losing money. A LOT of people. Statistically speaking it is almost certain that several hundred people a year that are directly referred by this site and end up committing suicide as a direct result, and it could easily be thousands. That is what is paying the bills here. Human misery.
This site does a better job of creating an intellectually respectable veneer of educational sophistication around its gambling advice than top gambling streamers do, But that is what it is: a veneer. The reality is the same. Just because a site owner recommends basic strategy and don't endorse betting systems doesn't absolve you of the fact you are preying on desperate people and profiting directly.
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Yes. Humans gamble. The site owners get a piece when players click through.
Taking a cut is +EV. Complaining about someone taking a cut is probably not +EV.
Disclosure: I am not paid staff, and I will not be. I have previously given instructions on how to find me and offer cash bribes, but nobody has yet availed themselves of the opportunity.
Quote: SlotenthusiastQuote: NathanQuote: AdambrooksTotally agree these streamers are clearly getting some kind of deal, and it’s shady that they don’t disclose it. Promoting reckless gambling without transparency isn’t cool.
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Lady Luck who ONLY does high bets admitted she and Miran actually lose more than they win. IIRC, she said they have high paying careers where they can afford to lose more than they win.
SD Guy had a video called All That Glitters where he was actually UP and then played back his big wins and ended up cashing out at only about a dollar. A Poster said something like,"Wow, that game that gave you good wins didn't take long to turn into complete garbage and take back the good wins it gave you. Thanks for showing us a video where you were up after some good wins and ended up giving back the good wins and leaving with roughly only a dollar. I am so sick of a lot videos where they ONLY show their winning videos, not their losing videos. It's refreshing to see that you posted a video where you ended up losing money, not winning. 💡
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Ladyluck and her husband are full time YouTubers now they quit their jobs. The rest of your post is spot on.
The fact the monetization from a video equals like 10 of their bets makes it pretty obvious the casinos are paying them to play.
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Hmm. They quit their jobs to become full time YouTubers? 😱,😳 Bad idea! 😱😳 They should have kept their high paying careers and kept the YouTube videos as a hobby. 💡 I myself won about $1,009 in one Casino session and I thought,"I won roughly a month's paycheck in one Casino session. I can quit my job to become a full time gambler!" 💡🤔😀 My very next thought was,"Shut up! That's a HORRIBLE idea! Don't quit your job to become a full time gambler!" I listened to my more rational thought and didn't quit to become a full time gambler. 💡 Thank God I didn't quit my job to become a full time gambler. It would have been a HUGE mistake! 😱😳💡
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SD Guy had a video called All That Glitters where he was actually UP and then played back his big wins and ended up cashing out at only about a dollar. A Poster said something like,"Wow, that game that gave you good wins didn't take long to turn into complete garbage and take back the good wins it gave you. Thanks for showing us a video where you were up after some good wins and ended up giving back the good wins and leaving with roughly only a dollar. I am so sick of a lot videos where they ONLY show their winning videos, not their losing videos. It's refreshing to see that you posted a video where you ended up losing money, not winning. 💡
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There are very few things I like about SDGuy.
That I've never heard him bark for superchats is one.
He has his rules. He follows them. Sometimes he does OK, sometimes he loses his shirt.
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Makes me glad to be an AP extracting every dime I can from these clip joints.
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That's hilarious because AP slot money comes directly from the players.