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EvenBob
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January 12th, 2011 at 8:10:55 PM permalink
JL returns tomorrow on the 13th. I give him 10 days or less till he's banned for a month. Is there any way to get a pool going? We all know its going to happen, its when thats the question.
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January 12th, 2011 at 8:19:06 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

JL returns tomorrow on the 13th. I give him 10 days or less till he's banned for a month. Is there any way to get a pool going? We all know its going to happen, its when thats the question.



I love it! Like one of those pregnancy pools, but with JL's banning.
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January 12th, 2011 at 8:25:11 PM permalink
I do plan to abide by my own rules and lift the suspension tomorrow. I'll stay out of the betting since I could just let myself win.
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January 12th, 2011 at 8:28:37 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I love it! Like one of those pregnancy pools, but with JL's banning.



I really don't think JL understands what constitutes an insult. He was has a way of looking at things thats different from the rest of us and when he expresses it, something bad often happens to him. Not my problem..
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January 12th, 2011 at 8:30:08 PM permalink
Over/Under

OV 48 hours -110
UN 48 hours +110

Number of posts it will take to get Jerry banned: 9
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January 12th, 2011 at 8:37:23 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

Over/Under

OV 48 hours -110
UN 48 hours +110

Number of posts it will take to get Jerry banned: 9



I'll take the over on both the timeframe and the post count. That's more a reflection on the Wiz's nature than Jerry's, though.
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January 12th, 2011 at 8:39:27 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I'll take the over on both the timeframe and the post count. That's more a reflection on the Wiz's nature than Jerry's, though.



Well, I did factor that in. With someone less forgiving than the Wiz, my line would have been:

OV 1 hour +130
UN 1 hour -120

Number of posts: 1
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January 12th, 2011 at 9:02:48 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

Well, I did factor that in. With someone less forgiving than the Wiz, my line would have been:

OV 1 hour +130
UN 1 hour -120

Number of posts: 1



Between 20 and 25 posts and he's done. He really tries to behave himself when he first gets back, but after a few days he gets lulled into complacency and WHAMO! He's toast again..
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January 12th, 2011 at 9:12:46 PM permalink
I'll say 6 days and 100 posts. It's really up to MKL though to push him over the edge. He's got his number.
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January 12th, 2011 at 9:15:52 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

I'll say 6 days and 100 posts. It's really up to MKL though to push him over the edge. He's got his number.



It was me that got him last time, Singer too. MKL is history..
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January 12th, 2011 at 9:20:38 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It was me that got him last time, Singer too. MKL is history..



I am? News to me.
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January 12th, 2011 at 9:22:07 PM permalink
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I am? News to me.



We'll see. I bet I'm the one he insults first.
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January 12th, 2011 at 9:22:48 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

I'll say 6 days and 100 posts. It's really up to MKL though to push him over the edge. He's got his number.



I don't think it'll take any effort on my part at all. Jerry is like a pile of oily rags sitting next to a can of kerosene.
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January 13th, 2011 at 12:35:12 AM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

I don't think it'll take any effort on my part at all. Jerry is like a pile of oily rags sitting next to a can of kerosene.

...sitting in the hot sun by the back door of an ammunition factory that borders on a hog farm lagoon.
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January 13th, 2011 at 4:01:29 AM permalink
At least once, JL and MKL were both banned for the same conversation.

No offense, but I'm hoping the same sort of thing happens.

That's the only way I'll have a chance of regaining the #1 poster spot! :)


By the way, either theres a bug in the system, or JL continues to lurk here. Check the "Members Who Have Visited the Forum Today" section at the bottom of the main page. His name in brown stands out like a sore thumb.
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January 13th, 2011 at 6:18:12 AM permalink
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That's the only way I'll have a chance of regaining the #1 poster spot! :)



Haha you would need MLK to be banned for almost three weeks to get your #1 spot back. You average 6 post per day and MLK has you by about 130 posts the last time I checked. Plus, with MLK averaging about 16 posts per day, your reign would be short lived... Maybe you should bribe J.L. to try n get MLK banned for a month.
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January 13th, 2011 at 8:12:36 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

By the way, either theres a bug in the system, or JL continues to lurk here. Check the "Members Who Have Visited the Forum Today" section at the bottom of the main page. His name in brown stands out like a sore thumb.



I've seen the name. I've seen him as currently online, too.

I assume the Wizard bans a user from posting, but not from entering and reading the forum. That would make sense because guests can also read it, so why not a banned member? When I ran an SF board, banned members could still make use of PM and email as well.

But why are we wasting so many bytes on a troll? don't we have anything better to talk about? There are games to be played and souls to be purchased, not to mention side bets to develop, and aspects of Vegas to explore.
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January 13th, 2011 at 8:51:11 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I do plan to abide by my own rules and lift the suspension tomorrow. I'll stay out of the betting since I could just let myself win.



That is good. Better than a woman who worked for me who said there was a baby pool and she won beause she was involved in schedueling the C-section.
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January 13th, 2011 at 10:19:01 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

At least once, JL and MKL were both banned for the same conversation.

No offense, but I'm hoping the same sort of thing happens.

That's the only way I'll have a chance of regaining the #1 poster spot! :)


By the way, either theres a bug in the system, or JL continues to lurk here. Check the "Members Who Have Visited the Forum Today" section at the bottom of the main page. His name in brown stands out like a sore thumb.



Apparently, temporarily banned members can still visit the forum, and read posts. Nothing wrong with that, IMHO.

And just to help you out, I'll transfer 100 or so of my posts to you so you can retake the lead.
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January 13th, 2011 at 11:11:48 AM permalink
Side bets-
Odds on who JL insults to warrant suspension.
mkl 1 -5
revealing a private message 2 - 1
evenbob 3 -1
any wife 5 -1
me for posting this 6 - 1
all other forum members 9 - 1
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January 13th, 2011 at 1:07:00 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Side bets-
Odds on who JL insults to warrant suspension.
mkl 1 -5
revealing a private message 2 - 1
evenbob 3 -1
any wife 5 -1
me for posting this 6 - 1
all other forum members 9 - 1


I would like "None of the above" at 4-to-1. Honor only.
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January 13th, 2011 at 4:11:18 PM permalink
Maybe Jerry won't post at all, to punish us with his absence. Little does he know....
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January 13th, 2011 at 4:21:41 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Side bets-
Odds on who JL insults to warrant suspension.
mkl 1 -5
revealing a private message 2 - 1
evenbob 3 -1
any wife 5 -1
me for posting this 6 - 1
all other forum members 9 - 1



I'm tempted to take the "field" bet, just because he might have the sense to lay off his most obvious targets for at least a little while. I also don't think he'll insult anyone's wife, or quote a private message, because he knows those things are explicitly taboo here.

I actually hope he lasts at least a little while. It will be fun to see him struggle with the necessity to post WITHOUT insulting anyone, making ad hominem attacks, showing racism, bigotry, or homophobia (which, is true, wouldn't necessarily get him booted), or telling anyone they are (insert pejorative) because they don't agree with him. Can he do it? Is he even CAPABLE of doing it? And if so, for how long? This is what will captivate the WoV audience for the next few days.
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January 13th, 2011 at 4:24:43 PM permalink
Quote: DorothyGale

I would like "None of the above" at 4-to-1. Honor only.



Are you saying that Jerry will not insult anyone, or even if he does, he won't get booted?

Wow...that would be like the 1962 Mets winning all 162 games...I'd lay that 4-1.

Surely Ladbroke's already has a line posted.
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January 13th, 2011 at 6:21:34 PM permalink
I am thinking this should be like the board game "Clue"

I think it will be an insult to MKL......in a private message....in the library hehe
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January 13th, 2011 at 6:22:34 PM permalink
Well here I am, back and ready to rumble. Thank all of you for directing so much attention my way, thereby showing how you can't live without me. But I also see so many of you want to think I'm RS....good choice, and thanks for that one too!

Speaking of that issue, can anyone here say O-B-S-E-S-S-I-O-N? What has to be going through someone's head to make him HAVE to scramble through other forums, then this one, just to selectively pick out words and phrases out of thousands of paragraphs? It's obvious Singer's in this guy's head, day & night. Yes he did get one thing right, I was Banjojerry. Duh! Every time someone does that, Singer scores a great big slap upside that person's head.

I see my RS/JL challenge was feared so much no one really wants a piece of it. Big fat surprise. Where would the whiners be if they didn't have their pretend world any more? I wonder if all the chumps realize how weak they look after that!

Teddybear, here's a news flash: You can stay logged on and not post or even look at anything. RS taught me that. He also taught me to drink diet coke.

Will I get suspended again? Who knows....and who even cares? I think this last one had to do with my revealing a PM I got from EvenBob. Funny wasn't it. The guy thinks he's on Survivor or something, with a need to gather allies to work against people he doesn't want to see around any more! If he wasn't so distraught with himself all the time he'd easily figure it all out without looking for a bouncer to work for him. Besides, MKL has shown so many times that he needs no help whatsoever digging his own personal holes, even if he does whip out all his dictionaries and thesauruses just to impress.

By the way, wasn't my $12,000 four Aces picture of my hit when RS was training me the purtiest thang you've ever seen here? Singer tells me winners like other winners while losers loathe them. I see why MKL etc. were held speechless by it (although they'll make believe they didn't care). So to further the gambling discussion here and eliminate nonsense about boobs, light bulbs, dating issues, why atheists are such forlorn loners, etc., tomorrow night overnight I'm having training session #3 on 25c through the $5 machines again at the local Indian casino. Wish me luck!

To add even more gambling discussion, I am getting back to betting the games this weekend and in fact have already done so. Read 'em and weep if you don't bet 'em. All are -110:

Pitts. -3 over Balt
Atl -2 over GB
Chi -10 over Sea (If I lose one game I hope it's this one, IF Seattle wins)
NE -8.5 over NYJ (are you kidding me?)

Each game has a $500 bet.

It's gonna be a grand slam for the home teams this weekend.

BTW Wizard, if the consensus is that I'm RS in that other thread, since I am a member, wouldn't any of those posts with RS name calling make the poster be subject to dismissal?
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January 13th, 2011 at 6:34:26 PM permalink
Quote: JerryLogan



The guy thinks he's on Survivor or something, with a need to gather allies to work against people he doesn't want to see around any more! If he wasn't so distraught with himself all the time he'd easily figure it all out without looking for a bouncer to work for him.



HUH? I have no idea what this means. Is it true your pal Singer was born without balls? He doesn't seem to have any, he runs away like a girl with his skirt over his head every time he's challenged. Whats up with that?
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January 13th, 2011 at 7:25:38 PM permalink
Remember, Bob, Singer IS Jerry. Jerry IS Singer.
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January 13th, 2011 at 7:36:16 PM permalink
Quote: JerryLogan

BTW Wizard, if the consensus is that I'm RS in that other thread, since I am a member, wouldn't any of those posts with RS name calling make the poster be subject to dismissal?



Welcome back. I hope you can behave yourself.

If I believed you were RS then I'd ban both your accounts, as I did with bjgod/blackjackgolden/ibow. As much as I admired the work that went into that post, I wasn't convinced. Perhaps I'll be proven wrong somebody, but I'm a believer in giving others the benefit of the doubt. You are still different people as far as the forum is concerned.
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January 13th, 2011 at 7:45:25 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

Remember, Bob, Singer IS Jerry. Jerry IS Singer.



And you're Isaac newton and Newton is you, until proven otherwise. (I can insult Newton, he's not a forum member)
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January 13th, 2011 at 7:47:28 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

And you're Isaac newton and Newton is you, until proven otherwise. (I can insult Newton, he's not a forum member)



I think it is proved otherwise by the fact that he's dead, and I'm not. You might have overlooked that.

Also, I don't write the same way Newton does, or say the exact same things the exact same way, the way JL and RS do.
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January 13th, 2011 at 7:57:47 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321



Also, I don't write the same way Newton does, or say the exact same things the exact same way,



You are correct, Newton had a 190 IQ. Einstein's IQ was only 160, as is Stephen Hawking's. I know, the way you figure it, they should be 300. I'm curious, did the IQ test you took come out of a cereal box? Was it on the back, maybe?
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January 13th, 2011 at 8:02:46 PM permalink
So why don't we just focus on my expert gaming ability in vp as of late, and naturally sportsbetting. And which of my detractors has the gonads to talk about that beautiful $12,000 hit that turned their petty envy into the similar disgust 1.6% of Americans had last evening, as speaker after speaker identified religion and God time and again in their addresses. I guess the know-it-all intellectuals just couldn't make it to the memorial.
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January 13th, 2011 at 8:04:24 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You are correct, Newton had a 190 IQ. Einstein's IQ was only 160, as is Stephen Hawking's. I know, the way you figure it, they should be 300. I'm curious, did the IQ test you took come out of a cereal box? Was it on the back, maybe?



Don't be snotty, Bob. It was administered by the University of California at Berkeley as part of a placement exam. I also took the Armed Forces General Intelligence Test some ten years later. Each gave similar results. This was quite some time ago. I might score somewhat lower today, I don't know--the tests are different these days.

I would also be quite happy to take any general intelligence test you care to name, and I'm willing to bet you $100 that I score in the 99th percentile, or whatever score equates to an IQ of at least 180 (to allow for measuring error). Of course, you'll have to put your money where your mouth is before I bother to do that...
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January 13th, 2011 at 8:07:54 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

Don't be snotty, Bob. It was administered by the University of California at Berkeley ..



And blah blah blah. Are there any other high school teachers where you work with a 190 IQ? You wanna know why there aren't?
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January 13th, 2011 at 8:23:29 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

Don't be snotty, Bob. It was administered by the University of California at Berkeley as part of a placement exam. I also took the Armed Forces General Intelligence Test some ten years later. Each gave similar results. This was quite some time ago. I might score somewhat lower today, I don't know--the tests are different these days.

I would also be quite happy to take any general intelligence test you care to name, and I'm willing to bet you $100 that I score in the 99th percentile, or whatever score equates to an IQ of at least 180 (to allow for measuring error). Of course, you'll have to put your money where your mouth is before I bother to do that...



ROTFLMFAO!!
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January 13th, 2011 at 8:28:28 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

And blah blah blah. Are there any other high school teachers where you work with a 190 IQ? You wanna know why there aren't?



You asked--I answered--then you covered your ears and went "la la la la la, I can't hear you." Man up, Bob. Don't ask the question only to piss on the answer.

And if you (with your MASSIVE intellect) already know the answer to the question about the high school teachers, why are you asking it?

And one more time, Bob--man up, now--are you calling me a liar? Are you?
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January 13th, 2011 at 8:39:19 PM permalink
Welcome back, Jerry. Sigh... let the games continue.
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January 13th, 2011 at 8:49:00 PM permalink
Man Jerry is a terrible poster but I think this thread was as bad or worse than anything he's ever posted.

Whatever happened to "don't feed the trolls"?
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January 13th, 2011 at 8:55:54 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

Don't be snotty, Bob. It was administered by the University of California at Berkeley as part of a placement exam. I also took the Armed Forces General Intelligence Test some ten years later. Each gave similar results. This was quite some time ago. I might score somewhat lower today, I don't know--the tests are different these days.

I would also be quite happy to take any general intelligence test you care to name, and I'm willing to bet you $100 that I score in the 99th percentile, or whatever score equates to an IQ of at least 180 (to allow for measuring error). Of course, you'll have to put your money where your mouth is before I bother to do that...


I'll put up $500 that you don't score 180. Book it.
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January 13th, 2011 at 9:05:47 PM permalink
Quote: TheNightfly

I'll put up $500 that you don't score 180. Book it.



More like 130-135, and thats on a good day. A very VERY good day..
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January 13th, 2011 at 9:38:12 PM permalink
The dogs, the dogs, they bark worse...
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January 13th, 2011 at 9:49:28 PM permalink
Quote: TheNightfly

I'll put up $500 that you don't score 180. Book it.



OK. You pick the test. You send the Wiz the money. When he acknowledges receiving it, I will do the same. However, I only offered to wager $100, so unless you're laying odds...

The test can be any one of a number of standard intelligence tests. To settle the bet, the test scores would have to be correlated against IQ score ranges.
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January 13th, 2011 at 9:50:59 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

More like 130-135, and thats on a good day. A very VERY good day..



Wanna back that one up with some cold, hard cash, Bob? Easiest $100 I will ever have made. I'm serious. I'll forward the money to the Wiz--if I score 130 or over, I win. Wanna bet, Bob?
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January 13th, 2011 at 10:00:47 PM permalink
By the way, I've done some research, and the score of 190 on the test I took twenty-odd years ago corresponds to roughly 150 today. So it should be that much more difficult for me to score EvenBob's 130. However, no current test I am aware of will even return a score of 180, let alone 190. So I'll revise my bet with Nightfly to say that I will score in the 99th percentile in any one of those tests he may choose--the IQ challenge at that level will be impossible to construct, since it isn't possible any more (unlike twenty years ago) to score that high.
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January 13th, 2011 at 10:08:32 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

I would also be quite happy to take any general intelligence test you care to name, and I'm willing to bet you $100 that I score in the 99th percentile, or whatever score equates to an IQ of at least 180 (to allow for measuring error). Of course, you'll have to put your money where your mouth is before I bother to do that...



IQ scores are approximately normally distributed with a mean of 100 and standard deviation of 15. That puts an IQ of 180 at a z-score of 5.33, which corresponds to the 99.9999946569 percentile. Probably a safe bet, no matter who you are.
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January 13th, 2011 at 10:12:04 PM permalink
Quote: waltomeal

IQ scores are approximately normally distributed with a mean of 100 and standard deviation of 15. That puts an IQ of 180 at a z-score of 5.33, which corresponds to the 99.9999946569 percentile. Probably a safe bet, no matter who you are.



I did post elsewhere that it is unlikely that any scoring scale on a standardized IQ test will go that high, so I'm amending the challenge to say simply "99th percentile".
I also mentioned that my score of 190 from 20 years ago only equates to a 150 score today; a 150 score today would be BETTER than a 190 was then. They used different measuring algorithms then. So rather than comparing apples and oranges, I thnk the 99th percentile would be the fairest way to go.
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January 13th, 2011 at 10:15:06 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

By the way, I've done some research, and the score of 190 on the test I took twenty-odd years ago corresponds to roughly 150 today. .



Really. So on a test today, you should score 230! This just keeps getting better and better..
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January 13th, 2011 at 10:19:20 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Really. So on a test today, you should score 230! This just keeps getting better and better..



No... cos the IQ test is logarithmic, and anyways 190 = 150 today, means he should score 150 on a standardised test today.

But top 99th percentile is only IQ of 135. I reckon I could get pretty close to that with a fair to middling amount of studying and training on my part. My natural IQ was around 102 when tested blind when I was 18, but was around 125 when I retook it a year later after doing various similar problems.

Or put it another way, I wouldn't take the bet that MKL can't make 99th percentile on a random test administered.
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January 13th, 2011 at 10:22:00 PM permalink
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No... cos the IQ test is logarithmic, and anyways 190 = 150 today, means he should score 150 on a standardised test today.



Its all bulloney anyway, he's just dancing and dancing, as usual.
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