Poker player arrested for checking advantage slot machines
It's clear as day to me precisely what he was doing(Checking for +EV situations on variable state machines)
It's clear as day to me that they falsely accused and arrested him for credit hustling.
Quote: AxelWolfhttps://www.pokernews.com/news/2025/...lice-48219.htm
It's clear as day to me precisely what he was doing(Checking for +EV situations on variable state machines)
It's clear as day to me that they falsely accused and arrested him for credit hustling.
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The link says the page is missing.
Did they take it down?
So he's a 2/5 poker player, what is he doing stalking slot players on a Monday waiting for the machine? That move is a step above panhandling, not what I'd expect a poker player to do, especially in town when he never knows where or when he will find a good live game. Same reason why I don't screw around with the slots too much, not when I can go hack away at... you know... 24/7 for more money and less legwork.
My suspicion is that there was something else going on, not what he's claiming nor what the cops are claiming, and neither side wants to talk about what it really is.
She cashed them in but gave me a VERY suspicious look like,"This Woman is sketchy as hell!" A Casino Manager was soon near me asking me how I was doing. Generally, I'm on red alert when someone out of nowhere asks me how I am doing because years prior, someone out of the clear blue asked me how I was doing and it turned out he was an Undercover Loss Prevention Officer who thought I was stealing. I proved to him that I wasn't stealing and he let me be on my way.
So when the Casino Manager out of nowhere asked me how I was doing I was on red alert. And I was right. He asked me if I stole the vouchers. I mentioned that I had $5 in free play and was only playing a penny a spin and cashed out whenever I had a win. He looked at the vouchers and realized they were all from the same exact machine,were all cashed out just seconds within each other and were all VERY low amounts like .10. He realized I didn't steal any of these vouchers and I was able to get my roughly $5 in cash.
Quote: NathanI myself ALMOST got into trouble myself for having like 50 vouchers when I used to ONLY play 1 penny a line. I had $5 in free play and every single time I got a win, I would press cash out. By the time my free play was done, I had about 50 vouchers. I went to the nearest Kiosk to turn them all in but the Casino Staff was working on it so I went to the Cashier Cage to cash them in....
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Why not feed them all back into the machine when you are done playing, and cash out with one voucher?
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: NathanI myself ALMOST got into trouble myself for having like 50 vouchers when I used to ONLY play 1 penny a line. I had $5 in free play and every single time I got a win, I would press cash out. By the time my free play was done, I had about 50 vouchers. I went to the nearest Kiosk to turn them all in but the Casino Staff was working on it so I went to the Cashier Cage to cash them in....
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Why not feed them all back into the machine when you are done playing, and cash out with one voucher?
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Because I was a REAL IDIOT back then. 💡😵💫☣️ As I got older and smarter I realized that I should have just put them all into one machine and cashed in just ONE voucher like you mentioned. Hindsight is always 20/20 and foresight is even better. 💡
Hmm. It's possible that I was afraid of accidentally hitting Max Bet and losing my $5 on a single spin. 💡🤔
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: NathanI myself ALMOST got into trouble myself for having like 50 vouchers when I used to ONLY play 1 penny a line. I had $5 in free play and every single time I got a win, I would press cash out. By the time my free play was done, I had about 50 vouchers. I went to the nearest Kiosk to turn them all in but the Casino Staff was working on it so I went to the Cashier Cage to cash them in....
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Why not feed them all back into the machine when you are done playing, and cash out with one voucher?
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Or better yet, do it sporadically on multiple machines that have left over credits so you can
A) Increase your Overall Profit by a few bucks(or cents)
B) Not look overly suspicious by putting all those tickets in once machine at one time
Works every time for me!
Quote:I had about $ 7 freeplay about a year ago at a local casino,I frequently visited, and I am a low roller. I was playing about a nickel a spin and when the freeplay was cycled through, I had won about $8 dollars cash, I had pressed cash out at most times after a winning spin. I had about 30 tickets with low amounts on them. I went to the TITO machine but some Casino staff members were putting more money into them. I decided to go to the nearby Cashier cage, and she was giving me a wary look as she cashed them in, like, "This person is shady."
A nearby Manager came up and asked me,"How are you doing?" I usually am on guard when people out of nowhere ask me "How are you doing?" Because usually something bad is about to be asked soon after, like the time a few years ago undercover Security Guard thought I was shoplifting when I wasn't. He thought he saw me put a store item into my pocket or something like that, and that wasn't the case at all.
So, I am already on guard with the Manager asking me the dreaded, 'How are you doing" and then the shoe dropped. He straight up asked me if I was cashing out random players' left over TITO's. The nerve! I told him, "No," I am a low roller and had free play and was cashing out every time I won. He took a good look at the TITO's and realized each ticket were from the same machines just seconds after each other. He believed me. Still that's really bad to treat a loyal guest. Worst thing ever that a casino Staff member has done to me.
.Quote: billryanA person who turns $7 in free play into hundreds of five and ten cent voucher isn't a loyal customer. They are a nuisance .
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At the time however, I was visiting basically every single day. 💡 Also, it was 30 TITOs and not hundreds. 💡
Quote: Nathan.Quote: billryanA person who turns $7 in free play into hundreds of five and ten cent voucher isn't a loyal customer. They are a nuisance .
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At the time however, I was visiting basically every single day. 💡 Also, it was 30 TITOs and not hundreds. 💡
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Playing a penny a spin gives you seven hundred spins. You only won thirty?
Quote: billryanQuote: Nathan.Quote: billryanA person who turns $7 in free play into hundreds of five and ten cent voucher isn't a loyal customer. They are a nuisance .
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At the time however, I was visiting basically every single day. 💡 Also, it was 30 TITOs and not hundreds. 💡
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Playing a penny a spin gives you seven hundred spins. You only won thirty?
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I found the thread where I mentioned the incident and I had $7 in free play and was playing a nickel a spin and not a penny a spin. I was cashing out most of my wins and ended up with $8 in cash. 😀
