100xOdds
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May 14th, 2023 at 11:24:30 AM permalink
Lost $3k on a play. I estimate the machine only returned 60%.
That was in the morning.

Throughout the day about 80% of plays lost. Down another $2k.
Constantly losing $ on plays put me on tilt. ($100 here, couple hundred there...)
I haven't had this bad of a losing streak in a while.

I was going to leave since it's lunch time.
Then i saw a $500 mhb that might be playable if ploppies put in a few hundred $ more so maybe in a couple more hrs.
But I don't have a couple of hrs. I'm leaving for the day now.

Unfortunately, i'm pissed off at my losing streak so i sit down and started playing it.
Lucky for me, it doesn't have speed stop.
Played down to the nearest hundred hoping for a Bonus round then cashed out. (No Bonus)
Yeah, as you can tell, i'm not thinking logically at this point if i'm gambling/hoping that the next few spins will be a Bonus instead of cashing out immediately.

I don't expect an external factor to save me from blowing $ next time.
So how do i get myself to leave when I know I'm on tilt?
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odiousgambit
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May 14th, 2023 at 11:31:29 AM permalink
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So how do i get myself to leave when I know I'm on tilt?
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........................................... OK so maybe not helpful

but I'm drawing a blank

I dunno guy, sometimes you have to get professional help if it's really a problem. As far as getting help here, not the best place.
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May 14th, 2023 at 1:53:25 PM permalink
I don't know how you fund your gambling, but if you find it tough to leave then try the following:

1) Bring cash, and only an amount you would be comfortable to lose;

2) Don't use casino credit or cash a check at the cage.

3) Don't use an ATM; if need be, leave your cards at home.

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May 14th, 2023 at 1:59:33 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I don't know how you fund your gambling, but if you find it tough to leave then try the following:

1) Bring cash, and only an amount you would be comfortable to lose;

2) Don't use casino credit, or cash a check at the cage.

3) Don't use an ATM; if need be, leave your cards at home.


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Precisely. If you only bring what you can afford to lose, you can't lose more than you can afford. It's a lesson I learned the hard way, but I turned an epic screwup into a learning experience.
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ChumpChange
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May 14th, 2023 at 2:03:49 PM permalink
I'd say the machine is on tilt with such a low payout percentage.
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May 14th, 2023 at 4:11:05 PM permalink
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So how do i get myself to leave when I know I'm on tilt?



You are asking the wrong question. The question should be, "How do I prevent myself from going on tilt?"

The "easy" answer is to never bet an amount of money that will put you on tilt. I always tried to limit my daily loss to 2% of my bankroll. If you can do that I don't think many people will go on tilt losing 2% of their bankroll. If your bankroll is $50,000 quit for the day if you lose $1000.
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May 14th, 2023 at 4:27:14 PM permalink
Time, Discipline and self-control can be practiced you are fighting chemical releases in your brain.
Try this, You impose a rule the rule is the next time negative variance is effecting your emotions
negatively you must exit the casino for 15mins and not enter another. This will give you time to come
down from the chemical release and gather yourself. You may find by doing this you will decide to go
home after gathering yourself. The struggle comes from within be the boss make the rule.

Don't cheat yourself either you will know exactly when the rule must be applied.
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May 14th, 2023 at 5:05:38 PM permalink
I think you consider yourself an AP? You use the word ‘plays’ which a casual gambler wouldn’t use. So each new bet should be a calculated decision. What is your bankroll? What is the EV of the play? What is the variance? What does Kelly tell you to do? Forget this bullshit excuse of ‘on tilt’!!!! You should NEVER make a bet that you haven’t determined is appropriate according to the criteria you use. If you feel you EVER need to leave a casino to ‘protect’ against making a foolish bet you shouldn’t put a foot in the casino.

Sorry to be so blunt.
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May 14th, 2023 at 5:24:50 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I think you consider yourself an AP? You use the word ‘plays’ which a casual gambler wouldn’t use. So each new bet should be a calculated decision. What is your bankroll? What is the EV of the play? What is the variance? What does Kelly tell you to do? Forget this bullshit excuse of ‘on tilt’!!!! You should NEVER make a bet that you haven’t determined is appropriate according to the criteria you use. If you feel you EVER need to leave a casino to ‘protect’ against making a foolish bet you shouldn’t put a foot in the casino.

Sorry to be so blunt.
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Very unrealistic, would you apply this to all human activity across the board? example Athletes lose control (go on tilt) should they quit?
Tyson bit off a chunk of Holyfeilds ear should he have chosen to never fight again? Losing self control happens in all facets of human
existence the Idea is to overcome not quit.
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May 14th, 2023 at 5:51:06 PM permalink
My suggestion is to bring along a partner to help with the AP.

Hopefully it's a play that two people can work together on

Your partner can help if he sees you going on tilt. Even if it's just to say "hey, partner, there isn't going to be any money for us to split if you keep up. You not going to screw me over are you?"

If you are a decent person (which you sound like) that realization should help curb your tilt.
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