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August 25th, 2021 at 3:08:44 AM permalink
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Then... if you really want a confusing situation... certain California poker casinos have several DIFFERENT sets of tournament chips. The Bicycle Casino used different sets for the smaller daytime tournaments so that players would not buy into the cheaper daytime tourneys and sneak those chips into the pricey nighttime tournaments. Hence... $1000 $500 and $100 chips were different colors in different sets.

Wow. I致e never run into that. But it makes sense. I stand corrected.
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August 25th, 2021 at 3:47:15 AM permalink
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Mdawg since you use high limit markers here's one for you:

The lamer for a million dollar marker at Caesars Palace is a white bathroom square tile with "1,000,000" painted in black.

No dollar sign, by the way.


Nice. And thanks.

All the casinos use lammers for markers but Circa is one of the only ones I've seen where they use actual negotiable chips to track Baccarat Bank commission in the tray. And silver too (quarters and fifty cent pieces) - most high limit rooms casinos don't both to calculate commission to within even the exact dollar let alone fraction of a dollar (although Treasure Island, too, calculates commission using silver coins). This seems odd to me - and when I pay off my commission at Circa I am careful to make sure the dealer sees the chip tossed in there lest it gets mixed up with the commission.

One day at Circa I put a hundred and fifty for me on the tie and ten dollars and a quarter I had received as change for commission on the tie for the dealer. When I put the quarter on top of the dealer's two red chips I said, "for luck." The tie hit, and I received my 1200, but the dealer got only 80. I kept saying, give the dealer her two dollars (0.25 x 8) but the pit boss said, we don't calculate tie payoffs on quarters. Pit boss did let the dealer have the quarter though.

At Circa I keep thinking that I'll hold on to those fifty cent pieces they send my way occasionally as change for commission payoffs, but I always end up placing them as part of dealer side bets. I don't play enough at Circa anyway to remember to keep the silver.
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August 25th, 2021 at 6:59:19 AM permalink
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One thing that makes me feel better is winning stacks and towers of checks I can't even see over.



Outstanding post, MDawg!

As to your final line there, I accuse you of not paying proper attribution to Rounders. Your punishment will be to suffer through a barrage of Rounders trivia, should we meet again.

I think I'm going to make an Ask the Wizard question out of this. Here is what I have so far. Feel free to make corrections or additions.

Also, is it fair to say most places start to jump up in size at the $1,000 chip? Do they jump up again at the $25,000 level?

Casino $5,000 $25,000 $100,000
Resorts World Brown Orange
Cosmopolitan White Orange
Treasure Island White
Palazzo/Venetian Brown Brown
Green Valley Ranch Brown
Circa Orange
Wynn Brown
Bellagio White Orange
Golden Nugget Red, white and blue
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August 25th, 2021 at 8:34:36 AM permalink
Thanks! for the kudos.

I will have to watch Rounders yet again before we meet and have that trivia quiz!


Your chart is accurate, with the following additions/changes:

Palazzo/Venetian
25K Orangish
100K gray with brown center

Wynn
5K white (with red blue trim)

Bellagio
100K steel blue (BUT I haven稚 seen one in a while, will have to check on this again may have changed)

I will have to check on that 5K chip at Resorts World next time I am there. Somehow I missed that one.

Chip sizes - Baccarat chips in general, at casinos where they have different chips for Baccarat, are larger than chips used at other tables games, although their colors and values are the same.

I will have to look more closely at whether the highest denomination Baccarat chips are larger in diameter than the others. I believe that is the case, yes, with some 25K or higher chips, at some casinos, but this larger chip size phenomena is not present at all casinos.

I recall that at Harrah's Tahoe the 5K Baccarat chips had visible metal in them and were quite different from any lower denomination chips.
Last edited by: MDawg on Aug 25, 2021
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August 25th, 2021 at 9:12:23 AM permalink
Thank you and you're welcome. Here is an updated table.

Casino $5,000 $25,000 $100,000
Resorts World Brown Orange
Cosmopolitan White Orange
Treasure Island White
Palazzo/Venetian Brown Orange Grey/brown
Green Valley Ranch Brown
Circa Orange
Wynn White/red Brown
Bellagio White Orange Steel blue
Golden Nugget Red, white and blue
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August 25th, 2021 at 9:53:36 AM permalink
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As to your final line there, I accuse you of not paying proper attribution to Rounders. Your punishment will be to suffer through a barrage of Rounders trivia, should we meet again.

I was gonna say something but thought better of it. Hi

But can I play too?

For the record I have one Rounders question that most people can稚 answer.

Typical poker scenes in TV or movies tend to include stupid errors like incorrect raise sizing and/or string bets, etc. Rounders gets accolades for having realistic games without those sort of errors - this, dispute the glaring rule violation of one man on a hand at the judges game.

But there is one string bet in Rounders that people tend to overlook. Do you know which scene and who did it?

Hint: I知 not talking about Teddy KGB. His string bet in the final hand was more obvious and allowed.
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August 25th, 2021 at 9:56:22 AM permalink
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I was gonna say something but thought better of it. Hi

But can I play too?

For the record I have one Rounders question that most people can稚 answer.

Typical poker scenes in TV or movies tend to include stupid errors like incorrect raise sizing and/or string bets, etc. Rounders gets accolades for having realistic games without those sort of errors - this, dispute the glaring rule violation of one man on a hand at the judges game.

But there is one string bet in Rounders that people tend to overlook. Do you know which scene and who did it?

Hint: it wasn稚 Teddy KGB. His string bet in the final hand was more obvious and allowed.



That sounds like a movie that I should probably watch.
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August 25th, 2021 at 10:27:48 AM permalink
I'll have to watch some of the other scenes again, but in the first one, after the last spade has fallen, KGB says, "Byet" and puts out only one stack - I assume 7500,


because subsequently he brings out another stack and then declares that he is betting "fifteen thousand."


Also, I've always wondered about whether KGB ends up with the hundred dollar chip they leave on the table even after everything is swept away, or if Matt Damon pockets it.


Or maybe it was just what we call in theater an "accident" - something unplanned, where in this case the director didn't want to reshoot the scene just because of the chip's being left behind.

Anyway, is that string betting? I mean KGB doesn't get all his bet into the pot in one motion, and he doesn't declare immediately that he is betting fifteen thousand, just says, "Byet."

I know what string betting is - believe me - in a Baccarat tournament I was in, on one round I had the fortune to have only one other player against me: it was a heads up between me and another player and the player picked up a stack of chips and dropped one chip only on the tie while hovering the entire stack over the tie spot. After much back and forth and the player's family even stepping up and saying that this player couldn't speak English and shouldn't be held to the string bet rule, the player was forced to bet the max on the tie bet, and...it hit. Couldn't catch up after that. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good.
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August 25th, 2021 at 11:06:23 AM permalink
It's getting a little out of hand, but these are the memorabilia / lucky chips I keep on me at all times in my player card wallet when playing.


Three are "Grand Opening" chips, the green $25. is some sort of Chinese New Year memorabilia one that somehow looked cool to me when I came across it, and the $5 chip was given to me by a Player who declared that it would bring me luck.

Initially the only one I kept was the Cosmo one which led to a dealer commenting that as long as I held on to it that I would never be broke, but while I just laughed good naturedly at the comment really I was thinking that if I ever got to where the difference between being broke or not was a hundred dollars that I would be in real trouble.

When my wife saw the chips the other day, she said, "Are they really worth 100 each?" and then wondered why I would hold on to them at all without cashing them. I can see her point. I explained that they were somehow special, and then she just said, "Okay, I understand" but I am not sure that she did.
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August 25th, 2021 at 11:17:19 AM permalink
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Also, I've always wondered about whether KGB ends up with the hundred dollar chip they leave on the table even after everything is swept away, or if Matt Damon pockets it.



That is a good question and something I have wondered about. I file it under "character error," but am not sure. My second choice would be it was some pity "bus fare" money for Mike. My third choice is a tip for the club staff. It's easy to argue against that one, since they dealt the cards themselves and not much in the way of staff that I can tell. Clutching at straws here.
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