Vegasrider
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May 11th, 2021 at 1:54:27 PM permalink
So MGM will be the 1st strip property to reintroduce parking fees at their properties in Vegas. Others soon to follow but at least us Nevada residents can still park for free, just screwing the visitors every which way they can.
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May 11th, 2021 at 2:13:03 PM permalink
Even state parks charge for parking these days. I think it's wrong, but it's the cost for saying and doing nothing.
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May 11th, 2021 at 3:18:44 PM permalink
State and Natl parks usually have an entrance fee, not to park. Imagine if the casinos start charging people to enter their property? Really not far fetched considering someone came up with the idea of ripping guests with the resort fees.
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May 11th, 2021 at 4:01:26 PM permalink
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State and Natl parks usually have an entrance fee, not to park. Imagine if the casinos start charging people to enter their property? Really not far fetched considering someone came up with the idea of ripping guests with the resort fees.



In 1981 I paid to get into the casino in Monte Carlo. I did play BJ there. Whatever the minimum was. Probably in Francs.
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May 11th, 2021 at 4:12:43 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

State and Natl parks usually have an entrance fee, not to park. Imagine if the casinos start charging people to enter their property? Really not far fetched considering someone came up with the idea of ripping guests with the resort fees.

You caught me. I'm not under oath, so I thought maybe I would make something up. When I'm not lying about being charged to park, or at a casino, I work as a crisis actor and I just needed practice. If you pay to park at MGM, the gang of drug dealers there give you your money back when you buy heroin or cocaine from them.
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May 11th, 2021 at 4:53:43 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

You caught me. I'm not under oath, so I thought maybe I would make something up. When I'm not lying about being charged to park, or at a casino, I work as a crisis actor and I just needed practice. If you pay to park at MGM, the gang of drug dealers there give you your money back when you buy heroin or cocaine from them.



That's a very weird response.
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May 11th, 2021 at 5:13:57 PM permalink
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That's a very weird response.


HAHAHA. Go to MGM and give your parking receipt to Tron. Tell him Kramer sent you.
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May 11th, 2021 at 6:25:45 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

State and Natl parks usually have an entrance fee, not to park. Imagine if the casinos start charging people to enter their property? Really not far fetched considering someone came up with the idea of ripping guests with the resort fees.


For my first time back this summer, we were going to stay at Sam's Town but they wanted a $58 dollar a night resort fee. $58? Really? Does Boyd realize it's Sam's Town and not the Bellagio?

Well, at least the parking is still free there, but I'll be staying at the Four Queens.
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May 11th, 2021 at 6:40:38 PM permalink
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For my first time back this summer, we were going to stay at Sam's Town but they wanted a $58 dollar a night resort fee.



It's probably $58 for the 2 day stay, not per day. Their resort fee is $23/day (plus tax).

The resort fee isn't really for paying for a resort anyway (Golden Gate isn't a resort lol). It's just a way to obscure the true nightly rate so consumers can't price shop accurately. The state realized this early and tax it as room rate.
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May 11th, 2021 at 7:09:14 PM permalink
I thought they both waived the parking fee if you have a high enough status, or if you get their credit card. And I believe the credit cards have no annual fee.

I believe there are additional perks as well.
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May 11th, 2021 at 8:14:49 PM permalink
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I thought they both waived the parking fee if you have a high enough status, or if you get their credit card. And I believe the credit cards have no annual fee.

I believe there are additional perks as well.


Correct, I have diamond at Caesars and platinum at MGM and both waive the parking fee.
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May 12th, 2021 at 7:58:02 AM permalink
again more ways to screw the little guy[/
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May 12th, 2021 at 8:03:14 AM permalink
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Correct, I have diamond at Caesars and platinum at MGM and both waive the parking fee. [/



Why should the average guy be treated as well as a business's best customers? If a typical 7 Star player is worth more to the casino than a busload of blue hairs, why should they be treated equally?
This is in response to DAs response, which for some reason is not quoted here.
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May 12th, 2021 at 8:19:45 AM permalink
Ethics? I know, that’s a four letter word for a cssino operator. Treating all of their profitable customers as if they have value has worked for the Gaughans. In any case there’s not a good reason it can’t be waived with a minimum retail spend or number of points.
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May 12th, 2021 at 8:48:42 AM permalink
If you want value from a business, bring value to the business.
A business that treats its $10 customers like its million-dollar ones will end up with a surplus of $10 clients and few million dollar ones.
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May 12th, 2021 at 9:00:34 AM permalink
That makes perfect sense in a virtual monopoly (like gaming historically was) versus a competitive market. More than one way to skin a cat to be sure. As far as “providing value” goes a tier system disincentives a player who “provides value” but has little history, why there’s not a good reason not to reimburse it for some threshold of daily play given that’s a more accurate measure of “value” than the tier anyway, at least for that day.
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May 12th, 2021 at 9:21:49 AM permalink
If I'm not mistaken, resort fees generate 100% Income for the hotel and cannot be diluted paying other 3rd party travel sites based on the room rates. My question is, are the resort fees taxed the same way as hotel room rates, because these fees generate millions of dollars and the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Bureau maynot be getting a piece of this action. Hotel tax is much higher than the ordinary sales tax. Not sure what the going rate is, I think close to 14% plus other fees, after all said and done, a visitor could be paying over 25% combined taxes, plus the resort fees.
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May 12th, 2021 at 9:49:20 AM permalink
Don’t local teens try to use casinos as weekend hang- outs, and don’t spend much. One reason for fees?
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May 12th, 2021 at 9:52:13 AM permalink
I don’t know of a non Native American casino that allows teenagers on the gaming floor. Paid parking pretty rare in native casinos Tampa about it not one I’ve ever heard of.
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May 12th, 2021 at 10:52:03 AM permalink
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Don’t local teens try to use casinos as weekend hang- outs, and don’t spend much. One reason for fees?



They would only be allowed to hang out in common areas such as the food court, movie theaters, arcades, etc. At least in Nevada
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May 12th, 2021 at 11:20:15 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: daveyandersen1

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Correct, I have diamond at Caesars and platinum at MGM and both waive the parking fee. [/



Why should the average guy be treated as well as a business's best customers? If a typical 7 Star player is worth more to the casino than a busload of blue hairs, why should they be treated equally?
This is in response to DAs response, which for some reason is not quoted here.

your response sounds like a typical response from someone who thinks he deserves better treatment just because he has more money..The average guy makes it possible for the 7star player to get that treatment because there are soo many more of them that are loyal to the casinos...Im not complaining just accepting real life at casinos..
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May 12th, 2021 at 11:40:57 AM permalink
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Quote: billryan

Quote: daveyandersen1

Quote: PokerGrinder

Correct, I have diamond at Caesars and platinum at MGM and both waive the parking fee. [/



Why should the average guy be treated as well as a business's best customers? If a typical 7 Star player is worth more to the casino than a busload of blue hairs, why should they be treated equally?
This is in response to DAs response, which for some reason is not quoted here.

your response sounds like a typical response from someone who thinks he deserves better treatment just because he has more money..The average guy makes it possible for the 7star player to get that treatment because there are soo many more of them that are loyal to the casinos...Im not complaining just accepting real life at casinos..



That's what happens when you assume. I am the ultimate low roller. I get next to nothing from casinos that I don't hustle out of them.
I just recognize that many people are more valuable to the casino than I am. I compare casino cards to frequent flyer miles. Airlines recognize their best customers and want to keep them. Casinos do, as well.
I'd imagine a business that treated its best customers the same as its smallest wouldn't last very long in the casino/hospitality industry.
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May 12th, 2021 at 11:43:25 AM permalink
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They would only be allowed to hang out in common areas such as the food court, movie theaters, arcades, etc. At least in Nevada



The only places I've noticed this is really out on Boulder Highway and The Cannery North.
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May 12th, 2021 at 12:28:27 PM permalink
your right Billr.. the higher rollers should get better treatment because the casinos WANT there business..I like your analogy about casino cards and frequent fliers too. BUT I think free parking should be available to anyone even us ultimate low rollers..
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May 12th, 2021 at 12:36:15 PM permalink
It occurs to me that substantially all of the strip casinos adopting additional resort / parking fees at around the same time seems like a price-fixing conspiracy, a violation of federal antitrust law.

see: https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/dealings-competitors/price-fixing
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May 12th, 2021 at 12:53:56 PM permalink
I remember asking the first time why a casino ATM fees were so high and being told it was set by the financial institution. I love that explanation. Nothing we can do even though it sits on our floor in our casino. Sorry 'bout that. Our Hands are tied!
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May 12th, 2021 at 1:14:09 PM permalink
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I remember asking the first time why a casino ATM fees were so high and being told it was set by the financial institution. I love that explanation. Nothing we can do even though it sits on our floor in our casino. Sorry 'bout that. Our Hands are tied!



I imagine those ATMs pay big rent to be in those locations. When I had ATMs in two of my clubs, I got a percentage of the fees but that was with a private ATM service, not a bank.
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