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January 3rd, 2021 at 7:34:02 PM permalink
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I am also preoccupied today. The wives can't agree on where they wan to go on vacation this year. They don't like my suggestions,

You suggested Amsterdam red light district ?
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January 3rd, 2021 at 11:27:25 PM permalink
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You said, " I swear on my life no slot machine comes close to the speed of Royal Slots."
"comes close" is subjective, please put up a number that would be sufficient. Remember, your statement makes it seem as if your slot is vastly superior in speed, so if you say coming close is 7100 or something high, then what you are really telling us is that your slot is not really all that special when it comes to speed.


What do you consider anywhere close, what number would exceed "anywhere close"?




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Here is the problem with your speed comment. 1st try and figure out what the fastest video slots gph is before you try and compare to royal slots, trust me royal slots is the fastest (& I consider a huge difference in gph speed around 1.5x). Your right that the speed increase isn't as impressive when comparing video slots to physical slots, that's partially the reason why strategy is to dominate the physical slot market.

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January 4th, 2021 at 1:37:52 AM permalink
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I read that, and responded. Can you just answer the question directly? I know for a fact there are video slot machines that will spin as fast as you can push the button. There are some less than a mile from my house.
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January 4th, 2021 at 1:46:40 AM permalink
I was playing the MS Stud video machine on WoV and getting just under 100 deals per 10 minutes. I expect I'd get 50 or less deals per hour at the tables.
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:13:06 AM permalink
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I read that, and responded. Can you just answer the question directly? I know for a fact there are video slot machines that will spin as fast as you can push the button. There are some less than a mile from my house.



What you are saying makes no sense. I guarantee you that you are wrong about being able to play the slot games as fast as you like. It's illogical what you are saying because even if the slot game was instant like Royal Slots (which it isn't) then the speed of the button will determine how fast you can play the game and many slots just don't have a good button so yes if the button sucks than the games speed will technically be determined by the button presses per hour, but that's definitely different than the slit games speed. Btw I know just the button technology to use to get that +7,200 gph ;)

P.S. Think about it, if someone can get 466 button presses in a minute on a calculator, why can't a slot machine do +120???

https://recordsetter.com/world-record/pressing-the-equal-sign-button-scientific-calculator-minute/50180
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:15:00 AM permalink
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I was playing the MS Stud video machine on WoV and getting just under 100 deals per 10 minutes. I expect I'd get 50 or less deals per hour at the tables.



Very nice and correct, but machines like that don't suffer from design flaws like today's slot games do ;)
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:18:47 AM permalink
I did not notice a design flaw except it was play money and my computer may have choked on another task so a few deals were terribly slow. Back in the day I'd have to reboot my Windows 98 computer after every 75 photos I looked at because it ran out of heap memory.
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:23:48 AM permalink
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I did not notice a design flaw except it was play money and my computer may have choked on another task so a few deals were terribly slow. Back in the day I'd have to reboot my Windows 98 computer after every 75 photos I looked at because it ran out of heap memory.



*don't, meaning there is a huge design flaw in today's slot machines, not video poker ;)
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January 4th, 2021 at 7:45:15 AM permalink
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What you are saying makes no sense. I guarantee you that you are wrong about being able to play the slot games as fast as you like. It's illogical what you are saying because even if the slot game was instant like Royal Slots (which it isn't) then the speed of the button will determine how fast you can play the game and many slots just don't have a good button so yes if the button sucks than the games speed will technically be determined by the button presses per hour, but that's definitely different than the slit games speed. Btw I know just the button technology to use to get that +7,200 gph ;)

P.S. Think about it, if someone can get 466 button presses in a minute on a calculator, why can't a slot machine do +120???

https://recordsetter.com/world-record/pressing-the-equal-sign-button-scientific-calculator-minute/50180

The ones I'm thinking of off hand you have to push it 2 times for each spin, once to spin, and one to flash the payout, there may be some single push on turbo mode. It's something I have taken note to when I have come across them, but I don't quite remember every aspect of every machine since I have played thousands of different slot machines and millions of spins for real money with an advantage.


AND that's what brings us back to my question that you won't answer. I will ask you again,

You said, " I swear on my life no slot machine comes close to the speed of Royal Slots."
"comes close" is subjective, please put up a number that would be sufficient. Remember, your statement makes it seem as if your slot is vastly superior in speed, so if you say coming close is 7100 or something high, then what you are really telling us is that your slot is not really all that special when it comes to speed.


What do you consider anywhere close, what number would exceed "anywhere close"?
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January 4th, 2021 at 12:24:52 PM permalink
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The ones I'm thinking of off hand you have to push it 2 times for each spin, once to spin, and one to flash the payout, there may be some single push on turbo mode. It's something I have taken note to when I have come across them, but I don't quite remember every aspect of every machine since I have played thousands of different slot machines and millions of spins for real money with an advantage.


AND that's what brings us back to my question that you won't answer. I will ask you again,

You said, " I swear on my life no slot machine comes close to the speed of Royal Slots."
"comes close" is subjective, please put up a number that would be sufficient. Remember, your statement makes it seem as if your slot is vastly superior in speed, so if you say coming close is 7100 or something high, then what you are really telling us is that your slot is not really all that special when it comes to speed.


What do you consider anywhere close, what number would exceed "anywhere close"?



I still don't see how you are confused. It's simple math, I said that I consider any game that is 1.5x faster to be "significant". So do the math, 7,200 gph means each game is being completed in .5 a second! So do the math? .5 x 1.5 = .75...So if I consider Royal Slots to be significantly faster than any other slot machine, I'm saying that you can't find a slot game that can do 4,800 games per hour or 80 spins per minute!
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:14:47 PM permalink
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I'm saying that you can't find a slot game that can do 4,800 games per hour or 80 spins per minute!

And I'm saying 'I can't find a Royal Slots slot game'. Does even a prototype exist?
That would be worthy of posting the demo video.

A google of 'Royal Slots Review' won't help your business model much.
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:31:46 PM permalink
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And I'm saying 'I can't find a Royal Slots slot game'. Does even a prototype exist?
That would be worthy of posting the demo video.

A google of 'Royal Slots Review' won't help your business model much.



Come on, don't be mean. Play the game & be patient. It will take over the industry from out of no where. I honestly don't believe in marketing casino games outside of the casino environment. The few people that watch for the latest slot machines to come out are going to play the game regardless of the video since they will be at a casino anyways. Plus word of mouth is still proven to be the #1 form of casino game advertising! In the meantime why not play my Royal Slots demo? ;)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-daoqMkefHRYQJiX-CmeFNZ2eKHZpJUL/view?usp=drivesdk
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:36:22 PM permalink
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Come on, don't be mean. Play the game & be patient. It will take over the industry from out of no where. I honestly don't believe in marketing casino games outside of the casino environment. The few people that watch for the latest slot machines to come out are going to play the game regardless of the video since they will be at a casino anyways. Plus word of mouth is still proven to be the #1 form of casino game advertising! In the meantime why not play my Royal Slots demo? ;)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-daoqMkefHRYQJiX-CmeFNZ2eKHZpJUL/view?usp=drivesdk



No matter what you think, making a prototype will make it much easier to get a manufacturer interested.
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:44:19 PM permalink
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No matter what you think, making a prototype will make it much easier to get a manufacturer interested.



I agree, does what I think matter now??? Did you want to front the bill for a Chinese cabinet?
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:51:15 PM permalink
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I agree, does what I think matter now???

You asked: No.
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Did you want to front the bill for a Chinese cabinet?

If you don't have the faith in your product to invest that, no corporation will.
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:51:44 PM permalink
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I agree, does what I think matter now??? Did you want to front the bill for a Chinese cabinet?



I am a little short on Yuan, but I personally have access to hundreds of unused Nevada Gaming approved cabinets. I don't know that I could sell you one unless you plan on getting approved by Nevada Gaming. I guess I probably could as long as it didn't contain any game software when I sold it.
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January 4th, 2021 at 2:53:39 PM permalink
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-daoqMkefHRYQJiX-CmeFNZ2eKHZpJUL/view?usp=drivesdk

I see no demo. Just an invitation to install something. You sure know how to drive your interested customer base away.
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January 4th, 2021 at 4:16:07 PM permalink
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Having a job is beneath me



Says all we need to know about you.
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January 4th, 2021 at 4:20:53 PM permalink
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You asked: No.If you don't have the faith in your product to invest that, no corporation will.



Thank you for your honestly & I appreciate the advice. My only rebuttal is that they can be very expensive & I think a CNC machine is a better investment :/ Good points tho 👍
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January 4th, 2021 at 4:26:17 PM permalink
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Says all we need to know about you.

I'm not kidding I was just about to say why hasn't someone ripped on me for that statement by now. Thank you, I needed that 👍
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January 4th, 2021 at 10:31:31 PM permalink
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I still don't see how you are confused. It's simple math, I said that I consider any game that is 1.5x faster to be "significant". So do the math, 7,200 gph means each game is being completed in .5 a second! So do the math? .5 x 1.5 = .75...So if I consider Royal Slots to be significantly faster than any other slot machine, I'm saying that you can't find a slot game that can do 4,800 games per hour or 80 spins per minute!

I wasn't confused, you just were not answering my question , but now you have, thanx.

What's my prize of I show video proof of a game that can spin 4800 spins per hour or more?
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January 4th, 2021 at 11:36:22 PM permalink
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I wasn't confused, you just were not answering my question , but now you have, thanx.

What's my prize of I show video proof of a game that can spin 4800 spins per hour or more?



The contest is for .6 gps but I'll change it to .75 for you if you want. But the stakes are already posted. Don't forget I win if I can disprove your video or if you can't cough it up in time ;)
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January 5th, 2021 at 2:58:51 AM permalink
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I wasn't confused, you just were not answering my question , but now you have, thanx.

What's my prize of I show video proof of a game that can spin 4800 spins per hour or more?



Is the challenge for a video reel or physical reel slot?
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January 5th, 2021 at 7:49:04 AM permalink
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Is the challenge for a video reel or physical reel slot?



Video would be allowed, don't waste your time with finding one that's physical, it doesn't exist!!!

You are aware the challenge says American slot machine, right? So the slot machine can't be from Japan & must be a machine, not an online game
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January 5th, 2021 at 8:22:05 AM permalink
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The contest is for .6 gps but I'll change it to .75 for you if you want. But the stakes are already posted. Don't forget I win if I can disprove your video or if you can't cough it up in time ;)

Just remind me, I dislike going back and looking though threads. As I said before, i am not here to do homework like tasks.
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January 5th, 2021 at 8:29:16 AM permalink
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Just remind me, I dislike going back and looking though threads. As I said before, i am not here to do homework like tasks.



Homework is going to the 1st page & reading the 1st comment? The challenge is to put up a months worth of WoV suspension.
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March 5th, 2021 at 12:22:44 PM permalink
Let's bring the challenges back guys! This might be on only way I am ever going to earn Dr. Eliot's respect but honestly he'd have to earn my respect also since what he's been saying has been REALLY bothering me lately. So I want to see him take on 1 of my challenges, might even make some new challenges just for Dr. Eliot!
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March 5th, 2021 at 12:28:35 PM permalink
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Let's bring the challenges back guys! This might be on only way I am ever going to earn Dr. Eliot's respect but honestly he'd have to earn my respect also since what he's been saying has been REALLY bothering me lately. So I want to see him take on 1 of my challenges, might even make some new challenges just for Dr. Eliot!



I think to get a world renown expert like Mr. Jacobson to participate you would have to make the financial reward enough to intrigue him. I am guessing that if you get to a six figure number and escrow it he might be interested.
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March 5th, 2021 at 12:48:05 PM permalink
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I think to get a world renown expert like Mr. Jacobson to participate you would have to make the financial reward enough to intrigue him. I am guessing that if you get to a six figure number and escrow it he might be interested.



??? Who said anything about challenging Mr. Jacobson? I only do financial challenges with people I don't respect because I want their money & to teach them a lesson.
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March 5th, 2021 at 12:48:09 PM permalink
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I think to get a world renown expert like Mr. Jacobson to participate you would have to make the financial reward enough to intrigue him. I am guessing that if you get to a six figure number and escrow it he might be interested.



Repeat
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March 5th, 2021 at 12:55:12 PM permalink
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??? Who said anything about challenging Mr. Jacobson? I only do financial challenges with people I don't respect because I want their money & to teach them a lesson.



LOL!!!

You really need to do your homework. https://www.888casino.com/blog/writers/eliot-jacobson
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March 5th, 2021 at 1:08:56 PM permalink
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LOL!!!

You really need to do your homework. https://www.888casino.com/blog/writers/eliot-jacobson



:( Ok that's fair. But its not like Dr. Jacobson is going to do any research on me so it kind of fair but your right.
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March 5th, 2021 at 3:12:42 PM permalink
So here is the Jacobson Challenge!

Rules: We each choose a game of our choosing at we have analyzed & request that the other person solve the answers that we request which are within our data that we will submit once the challenge has been completed. Winner should be who ever makes the least amount of errors followed by who completes the challenge the fastest.

Prizes: If I win I want Dr. Jacobson to either help publish my research or find someone who can and get them to help. If Dr. Jacobson wins I win be a slave to anything he wants for a year as long as it doesn't involve committing a crime. I hope the stakes are high enough.
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March 5th, 2021 at 3:24:16 PM permalink
No squabble ;) Just a challenge. I'll even leave spoilers about what I think will happen if this challenge goes down that's how confident I am.


So I'm going to show him one of my games that nobody has seen yet that I have already done the analysis on and Dr. Jacobson will not even be able to provide me any data because he wont be able to have made a game simulation to come up with his analysis; or at least not this year ;)


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March 5th, 2021 at 4:30:55 PM permalink
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March 5th, 2021 at 9:15:52 PM permalink
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No squabble ;) Just a challenge. I'll even leave spoilers about what I think will happen if this challenge goes down that's how confident I am.


So I'm going to show him one of my games that nobody has seen yet that I have already done the analysis on and Dr. Jacobson will not even be able to provide me any data because he wont be able to have made a game simulation to come up with his analysis; or at least not this year ;)


I love you OnceDear!



I read this at work at started giggling trying to keep a straight face. I'm more excited about this competition than I am for Rick and Morty season 5.
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March 6th, 2021 at 11:23:28 AM permalink
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So here is the Jacobson Challenge!

Rules: We each choose a game of our choosing at we have analyzed & request that the other person solve the answers that we request which are within our data that we will submit once the challenge has been completed. Winner should be who ever makes the least amount of errors followed by who completes the challenge the fastest.

Prizes: If I win I want Dr. Jacobson to either help publish my research or find someone who can and get them to help. If Dr. Jacobson wins I win be a slave to anything he wants for a year as long as it doesn't involve committing a crime. I hope the stakes are high enough.



I am guessing teliot is not in the market for a slave....
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