AlanMendelson
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August 30th, 2020 at 11:32:20 AM permalink
Darkoz...

Even if you have 100 players on your payroll getting $20 of free play a week, it doesn't add up to $20,000 weeks.

Show me the math.

And what do you do when the $20 falls to $5 ?

You can't tell me it won't.
AlanMendelson
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August 30th, 2020 at 11:34:17 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Do you guys understand you do not get a CTR when you cash out over $10k? A CTR is filed but the patron doesn't get anything. In many cases the patron doesn't even know a CTR is being filed.



DRich is correct. Players dont get a copy of a CTR.

But I wonder if you could ask for it?

Also... casinos are NOT required to file a CTR if they know you and you have an established history and records that can be presented.

If you have a credit line there is probably no CTRs filed. Then the casino has plenty of records.
MDawg
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August 30th, 2020 at 11:37:53 AM permalink

This was exactly my point...that AxelWolf's asking to "see" a CTR shows how much he knows about table game play. And would tend to indicate that AxelWolf's never been there with a $10K cashout from a table game to begin with.

No table game player would cash out seven figures anyway, and that AxelWolf thought that someone would, is also indicative of how high limit table game play is beyond his ken.

And my point in bringing this up is that AxelWolf's opinion on whether or not I play and win at table games is meaningless.


Quote: AlanMendelson


Also... casinos are NOT required to file a CTR if they know you and you have an established history and records that can be presented.

Incorrect. A CTR is filed anytime anyone deposits or withdraws $10K or more in cash over a 24 hour period. There is no leeway on this.


Quote: AlanMendelson

Darkoz...

Even if you have 100 players on your payroll getting $20 of free play a week, it doesn't add up to $20,000 weeks.

Show me the math.

And what do you do when the $20 falls to $5 ?

You can't tell me it won't.


The only free play that is truly free and not tied to casino play is the free you get on a brand new player card. Each new player must present valid ID. There aren't enough humans on the planet to sustain $20K a week forever with new players, let alone at the few casinos available to DarkOz. When you consider that the pool of "new players" available to DarkOz is decidedly less than the total population of the earth, the odds against this - getting massive free play on new player cards - become even more daunting.

As far as the free play to which Alan alludes, I assume he is dumping in a lot more losses than $20. just to get the $20.

Even if there is some free play being accumulated with player cards that are NOT new, in keeping with the multiple inaccuracies in thinking I already mentioned, what we're not hearing about is the amount of coin that has to be input just to generate it.
If DarkOz wants to enlighten us on how exactly he is getting free play consistently with players who are either not playing or not losing, that would be something worth reading.
Last edited by: MDawg on Aug 30, 2020
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darkoz
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August 30th, 2020 at 11:46:44 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Darkoz...

Even if you have 100 players on your payroll getting $20 of free play a week, it doesn't add up to $20,000 weeks.

Show me the math.

And what do you do when the $20 falls to $5 ?

You can't tell me it won't.



OmfG.

I got 10 Players staying at home while I go collect this from each and every one.



Then in two months I move onto the next 10.

I'm not going to explain to you how to get those offers. But I have posted one method (the one for the calendar above). Look for my NY AP move thread
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
AlanMendelson
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August 30th, 2020 at 11:47:35 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

A CTR is filed anytime anyone deposits or withdraws $10K or more in cash over a 24 hour period. There is no leeway on this.



If I'm wrong then casinos like Caesars and Wynn and Bellagio and Venetian and MGM must have huge departments doing nothing but CTRs.
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August 30th, 2020 at 11:50:05 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg


This was exactly my point...that AxelWolf's asking to "see" a CTR shows how much he knows about table game play. And would tend to indicate that AxelWolf's never been there with a $10K cashout from a table game to begin with.

No table game player would cash out seven figures anyway, and that AxelWolf thought that someone would, is also indicative of how high limit table game play is beyond his ken.

And my point in bringing this up is that AxelWolf's opinion on whether or not I play and win at table games is meaningless.


Incorrect. A CTR is filed anytime anyone deposits or withdraws $10K or more in cash over a 24 hour period. There is no leeway on this.



The only free play that is truly free and not tied to casino play is the free you get on a brand new player card. Each new player must present valid ID. There aren't enough humans on the planet to sustain $20K a week forever with new players, let alone at the few casinos available to DarkOz. When you consider that the pool of "new players" available to DarkOz is decidedly less than the total population of the earth, the odds against this - getting massive free play on new player cards - become even more daunting.

As far as the free play to which Alan alludes, I assume he is dumping in a lot more losses than $20. just to get the $20.








Clueless.
AlanMendelson
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August 30th, 2020 at 11:51:18 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

OmfG.

I got 10 Players staying at home while I go collect this from each and every one.



Then in two months I move onto the next 10.

I'm not going to explain to you how to get those offers. But I have posted one method (the one for the calendar above). Look for my NY AP move thread



What you dont show us is how long these offers continue for.

I used to get mailers like that from Rincon. But when your play drops off the mailers stop.

Unless you have a "perpetual motion machine" for generating free play.
MDawg
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August 30th, 2020 at 11:55:04 AM permalink
Not so much how long, but how much. How much must be input and lost at these silly machines that have terrible odds just to get the free play. Slot machines have the worst odds in the house, well, short of Keno.
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darkoz
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August 30th, 2020 at 11:58:43 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Quote: darkoz

OmfG.

I got 10 Players staying at home while I go collect this from each and every one.



Then in two months I move onto the next 10.

I'm not going to explain to you how to get those offers. But I have posted one method (the one for the calendar above). Look for my NY AP move thread



What you dont show us is how long these offers continue for.

I used to get mailers like that from Rincon. But when your play drops off the mailers stop.

Unless you have a "perpetual motion machine" for generating free play.



What's that famous line from "Cool Hand Luke"?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
mcallister3200
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August 30th, 2020 at 11:58:46 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

OmfG.

I got 10 Players staying at home while I go collect this from each and every one.



Then in two months I move onto the next 10.

I'm not going to explain to you how to get those offers. But I have posted one method (the one for the calendar above). Look for my NY AP move thread



Complete waste of time and energy to play ďAlan games. ďSave yourself. Itís not possible to come up with a satisfactory answer, he will keep changing the question.

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