darkoz
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June 23rd, 2020 at 8:56:48 AM permalink
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If the store requires masks then I will be wearing a mask. If they don't require a mask and your Mom is concerned why is she at that store and not one that requires masks?



Because they have what she needs?

Because it's closer to where she lives?

Lower prices?

Why should she have to spend more or travel further because some people don't care about other people health
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June 23rd, 2020 at 8:58:47 AM permalink
CoolJay, I'm just curious... How did you get sickened with covid19 previously when you have worn a facemask in casinos? Did your brother or your partner spread covid19 to you at home?
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June 23rd, 2020 at 8:58:52 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Because they have what she needs?

Because it's closer to where she lives?

Lower prices?

Why should she have to spend more or travel further because some people don't care about other people health



Don't you think that is awfully selfish? Mom shouldn't be inconvenienced but I should be?

My Mom has chosen not to go out in public at all for three months. If she decides to go out and she catches Covid and dies, at least she was able to make an educated choice and suffered the possible consequence of that choice. I wouldn't blame others for it.
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June 23rd, 2020 at 9:24:05 AM permalink
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Because they have what she needs?

Because it's closer to where she lives?

Lower prices?

Why should she have to spend more or travel further because some people don't care about other people health



I understand your thoughts. But the value to society of your mother not having to travel a few blocks or miles or whatever to me is not more than the value to the business owner to run his business as he sees fit. As long as the policies are clear and open. There are no requirements for the government to insure there are certain stores near your mother. Nor should there be.

Since this is WoV, the analogy to whether ALL casinos should be smoke free is always there. If your mother lives in Las Vegas should she be guaranteed a smoke free casino?
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June 23rd, 2020 at 9:35:28 AM permalink
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CoolJay, I'm just curious... How did you get sickened with covid19 previously when you have worn a facemask in casinos? Did your brother or your partner spread covid19 to you at home?



I live in a community that experienced an outbreak. 11 People in my building have tested posirive (that I know of). No one died, but one older gentleman was pretty sick in ICU for a number of days.

There are a number of pro poker players in the building. The first guy to test positive had been in the casinos right up until they closed. Masks weren't even recommended at that time.
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June 23rd, 2020 at 9:40:40 AM permalink
All I can think back to is WW2. People were asked to make all sorts of sacrifices. No one complained. They call that the "greatest generation".

Today people are being asked to wear a damn mask for the good of others. And some are refusing because they don't feel like it, proving today's Americans are a far cry from the "greatest generation". Apparently replaced by selfishness and the "me" generation.
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June 23rd, 2020 at 9:41:16 AM permalink
Duplicate.
darkoz
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June 23rd, 2020 at 9:47:29 AM permalink
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I understand your thoughts. But the value to society of your mother not having to travel a few blocks or miles or whatever to me is not more than the value to the business owner to run his business as he sees fit. As long as the policies are clear and open. There are no requirements for the government to insure there are certain stores near your mother. Nor should there be.

Since this is WoV, the analogy to whether ALL casinos should be smoke free is always there. If your mother lives in Las Vegas should she be guaranteed a smoke free casino?



I actually believe she should be.

Currently there are states where that is the case. The government felt the inconveniences of smokers who may have to walk a few feet outdoors to smoke is overweighted by the health and safety of non-smokers.


NY smoker has to travel a few feet to smoke. Big deal.

Vegas non-smokers has to travel to another state for smokeless conditions?

Of course, that's the way it is currently. I don't agree with it.

If smokers had their way, smoking would be permissible in restaurants, movie theaters and airplanes.

Yeah, airplanes. Imagine smokers having to go for hours without a drag. They still manage to fly, correct? Without a smoke for the health and safety of others?

The casino industry is way behind on this

Back to Covid-19, the real issue is that we do contact tracing. That means there is a strong likelihood that if many people contract Covid-19 from a certain casino, it's going to be shutdown. Look at bars in Florida and meat packing plants etc.

Seems strange to me that the argument is convenience with wearing a mask. How inconvenient will it be when your casino shuts down and it could have been avoided?

How selfish when NO ONE gets to gamble because you refused to wear a mask?

But, hey, it's Vegas. If your favorite casino shuts down due to Covid-19, You can just do it again across the street, gamble without safety measures to they shut down as well.
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June 23rd, 2020 at 10:01:56 AM permalink
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All I can think back to is WW2. People were asked to make all sorts of sacrifices. No one complained. They call that the "greatest generation".

Today people are being asked to wear a damn mask for the good of others. And some are refusing because they don't feel like it, proving today's Americans are a far cry from the "greatest generation". Apparently replaced by selfishness and the "me" generation.



Face it Walter, there’s no connection to WW2.
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June 23rd, 2020 at 10:11:18 AM permalink
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Seems strange to me that the argument is convenience with wearing a mask. How inconvenient will it be when your casino shuts down and it could have been avoided?

How selfish when NO ONE gets to gamble because you refused to wear a mask?



Why wouldn't you just go to your favorite casinos management and convince them to only allow patrons with masks? Let the casino decide but don't mandate it for every casino.
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