1) The virus appears to be most contagious in the couple of days before symptoms actually show up.
2) A good chunk of those infected and transmitting the disease are completely asymptomatic.
Thermal scans are better than nothing, but possibly not much better. I don't think anyone has any idea if they'll have a significant impact, as in reducing virus load inside by a third or half, or whether they'll simply be window dressing with minimal effect.
And yeah, I'm curious as to what your temp measures when you step inside after wearing a hat in 110 degrees and you take off the hat. Or you're a person with long black hair walking outside without a hat. Should be a nightmare.
Quote: WishuponacometThere have been reports that Las Vegas Casinos will implement Thermal Sensors at Casino Entrances when they are reopened. Basically people who have a body temperature of over 100 will be denied admittance. I don't think this idea will fly too well as the majority of people will not feel comfortable with Thermal Sensor checks and the fact is that Las Vegas Weather can be 105 degrees. Just being in the Las Vegas Weather can cause a reading of over 100 degrees causing No Admittance to the Casino.
A few points. Lets say you are able to identify 100 COVID-19 positive people. Maybe 5 are very sick and just wouldn't even feel like going to a casino. Maybe 2 are pretty sick and still want to go to a casino. The other 93 are either asymptomatic, or so mildly symptomatic that they have a temperature of below 100.4. So the casino will let in 93 out of the 95 that if they actually had COVID-19 testing at the door they would be able to ban. It will not be worth the effort.
As far as hot weather altering body temperature, our bodies are supposed to do a great job of maintaining the magic 98.6. A 'normal' person in 100 degree Vegas heat will sweat enough that evaporative heat loss will keep your core temperature at 98.6, or at least very close to it. You are in serious trouble if your body can't keep your temperature below 100.4.
And it is well known that the elderly have normal 'starting' temperatures well below 98.6. They will be significantly febrile at 99, but will glide into the casino.
Right before the pandemic lockdown took hold in the US, we went on a cruise. The cruise assured us they did strict screening to make sure we were at low risk. Before boarding, we were asked if we had been to China recently, or had a high fever, or lots of coughing. I'm sure that no one lied......
Quote: redietzThe key problems here, which were discussed when the Wynn started taking temps before the shutdown (as foreign banks were doing):
1) The virus appears to be most contagious in the couple of days before symptoms actually show up.
2) A good chunk of those infected and transmitting the disease are completely asymptomatic.
Thermal scans are better than nothing, but possibly not much better. I don't think anyone has any idea if they'll have a significant impact, as in reducing virus load inside by a third or half, or whether they'll simply be window dressing with minimal effect.
And yeah, I'm curious as to what your temp measures when you step inside after wearing a hat in 110 degrees and you take off the hat. Or you're a person with long black hair walking outside without a hat. Should be a nightmare.
I don't know the thermal answer myself but shouldn't it work like any body temp thermometer?
The human body adjusts to maintain body temp. The outside may be burning but the inside remains 98.6.
An old fashioned under the tongue thermometer would get it right in measuring body temp even if you just jogged in 100" weather?
Or am I wrong on that?
does it actually read your core body temperature? From my understanding they look at the corner of your on your tear duct. I have no idea how the outside temperature can or can't affect that. How accurate are these things in the first place? I really have no clue how strip casinos are going to make money at a much lower capacity in the first place.Quote: SOOPOOA few points. Lets say you are able to identify 100 COVID-19 positive people. Maybe 5 are very sick and just wouldn't even feel like going to a casino. Maybe 2 are pretty sick and still want to go to a casino. The other 93 are either asymptomatic, or so mildly symptomatic that they have a temperature of below 100.4. So the casino will let in 93 out of the 95 that if they actually had COVID-19 testing at the door they would be able to ban. It will not be worth the effort.
As far as hot weather altering body temperature, our bodies are supposed to do a great job of maintaining the magic 98.6. A 'normal' person in 100 degree Vegas heat will sweat enough that evaporative heat loss will keep your core temperature at 98.6, or at least very close to it. You are in serious trouble if your body can't keep your temperature below 100.4.
And it is well known that the elderly have normal 'starting' temperatures well below 98.6. They will be significantly febrile at 99, but will glide into the casino.
Right before the pandemic lockdown took hold in the US, we went on a cruise. The cruise assured us they did strict screening to make sure we were at low risk. Before boarding, we were asked if we had been to China recently, or had a high fever, or lots of coughing. I'm sure that no one lied......
People usually go to the strip casinos to have fun. With the restrictive conditions they want to implement, it doesn't sound like it will be too much fun to me.
A new tool in the card counters arsenal should be a Sharpie for drawing an extra circle on the table when they want to spread to multiple hands in their contained area.
Also, I agree with posters who said "it won't be worth the effort." It'll be mainly window dressing, something to separate Wynn from some other places in patrons' minds, but probably not very useful.
And I don't think Americans will do the mask-wearing and social-distancing necessary in casino environments. Everything becomes a reminder of the stress and danger. That's not why people go to casinos.
But for the 'regular' patients the hospital added an order to 'immediately notify anesthesia for any temperature below 36." We would then do an oral temperature, or in some cases if the patient had a indwelling urinary catheter, do a "Foley temp" which is considered more accurate. In most cases, the final temperature from one of the 'invasive' methods was higher than the 'run the thermometer near your face' method.
Thanks for reminding me of another reason I hate government run insurance... the absolute waste in having doctors and nurses spending time on useless temperature verifications.
Quote: WishuponacometThere have been reports that Las Vegas Casinos will implement Thermal Sensors at Casino Entrances when they are reopened. Basically people who have a body temperature of over 100 will be denied admittance. I don't think this idea will fly too well as the majority of people will not feel comfortable with Thermal Sensor checks and the fact is that Las Vegas Weather can be 105 degrees. Just being in the Las Vegas Weather can cause a reading of over 100 degrees causing No Admittance to the Casino.
And just think of all the people with the virus who will visit their deep freeze just before going thru the sensors.
To the extent that any of these "guidelines" impact business, both the casinos and the state regulators will want them to go away.
Health has nothing to do with it. Self-imposed temperature checks at the door serve no valid medical purpose. The responses above point this out. Window-dressing.
When the restrictions are relaxed at casinos so as to improve state tax revenue, they can no longer be imposed on the non-gambling public. Casinos will be the first place where these silly restrictions will be reduced.