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darkoz
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March 23rd, 2020 at 10:27:11 AM permalink
On a related note:

NY Subway's are now filled with homeless who are are stretching out on benches normally filled with commuters and sleeping like babies.

A friend of mine argued it won't be long before Coronavirus wipes them out as homeless have bad hygiene due to their situation

I took the opposite tack. It should be pointed out that the primary methods of avoiding transmission is

1) social distance

2) non-physical contact like avoiding shaking hands

Precisely the conditions the homeless have been practicing out of necessity way before the virus.

They are shunned by the general public (how many times have you witnessed regular folks refuse to sit near a homeless person or walk an extra SIX feet(Coronavirus style) around them.

Homeless don't go on "buddy" parties where they hang out at bars drinking (and aside from the movies I never saw any groups hanging around trashcans with fires sharing their problems. That's just a Hollywood myth)

The irony may be the safest group of people on the planet turn out to be the homeless population
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AxelWolf
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March 23rd, 2020 at 11:07:11 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

On a related note:

NY Subway's are now filled with homeless who are are stretching out on benches normally filled with commuters and sleeping like babies.

A friend of mine argued it won't be long before Coronavirus wipes them out as homeless have bad hygiene due to their situation

I took the opposite tack. It should be pointed out that the primary methods of avoiding transmission is

1) social distance

2) non-physical contact like avoiding shaking hands

Precisely the conditions the homeless have been practicing out of necessity way before the virus.

They are shunned by the general public (how many times have you witnessed regular folks refuse to sit near a homeless person or walk an extra SIX feet(Coronavirus style) around them.

Homeless don't go on "buddy" parties where they hang out at bars drinking (and aside from the movies I never saw any groups hanging around trashcans with fires sharing their problems. That's just a Hollywood myth)

The irony may be the safest group of people on the planet turn out to be the homeless population

I don't know about where you are, but here in Vegas they certainly seem to hang out in packs. Just the other day while driving on the strip I saw a group of five or six of them all sitting on and around the same bench having a good old time, or commiserating.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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March 23rd, 2020 at 11:11:09 AM permalink


edit to add:
In cities like Los Angeles, where gatherings have essentially been banned over the outbreak, homeless people still remain on the street, often clustered in tent camps with little privacy from one another. And until Tuesday, they were required to take down these tents during the day, further exposing them to the risk of contracting and spreading Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Bad health conditions and the lack of shelter make homeless people vulnerable to Covid-19
Living without a stable home is bad for your health. Lack of health care coupled with malnutrition and bad hygiene put homeless people at risk of contracting contagious and chronic illnesses.

The rates of respiratory diseases, which is a major risk factor for Covid-19 patients, are particularly high among this population. A study that observed a hospital in Washington found that 32 percent of those hospitalized for respiratory diseases were homeless, compared with 6.5 percent of all patients hospitalized.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
SOOPOO
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March 23rd, 2020 at 11:24:24 AM permalink
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Mario Cuomo thinks up to 9 months, yeah right, there is no reason for healthy people to be locked up for so long. I want $500 a day at least for false imprisonment, probably closer to $1000 a day because the world is likely to be a joke economy.



He apologized for that comment today. Manned up. Said that was a feeling he had and was not supported by the experts.

I put July 1. Viruses tend to not do well in the late spring / summer which is good for people. Some drugs are showing some limited success in treatment. China is sort of back to approaching normal already. The death rate seems to be lower per case than in other parts of the world due to our robust health care system. Would I be stunned if it was June 1? Yes I would. Would I be stunned if it is August ? Nope. But after September 1? Yes.

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TDVegas
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March 23rd, 2020 at 11:38:19 AM permalink
Sadly, I suspect a long siege.
TomG
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March 23rd, 2020 at 12:01:45 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Mario Cuomo thinks up to 9 months, yeah right, there is no reason for healthy people to be locked up for so long. I want $500 a day at least for false imprisonment, probably closer to $1000 a day because the world is likely to be a joke economy.



In Nevada, no healthy people are being locked up (or on lockdown or on quarantine or anything else I've heard it being described as). All non-essential businesses were told to close, and that's pretty much it. The exact extent they are being forced to do so is still unclear. Last I heard, district attorneys were saying they are not going prosecute violators of those orders. Places could lose their business licenses by staying open, so I wouldn't risk it. I think very few states have gone much further than that. The current order on that is through middle of April. Going longer than that has to be the favorite. But I am not seeing a clear path to a third month, so of the poll options, I'll go with 1 June.
TomG
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March 23rd, 2020 at 12:09:44 PM permalink
Governor Sisolak appoints Jim Murren, former MGM CEO to head Covid-19 task force. He's going to charge parking fees and resort fees so the virus doesn't stay as long as it had planned to.
TigerWu
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March 23rd, 2020 at 12:12:38 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

China is sort of back to approaching normal already.



That's what they tell us, anyway, right? Do we somehow have any kind of third party verification that things are calming down in China?
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March 23rd, 2020 at 12:14:11 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I think the question is too vague.

The real question is when will business that is closed by government order be allowed to reopen.



people who can creatively run their business while maintaining the margins of safety should be allowed to do so.
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TigerWu
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March 23rd, 2020 at 12:28:14 PM permalink
Italy has had two days in a row now of not only declining deaths, but also new cases.

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