The thing to remember is that on any given day there are 30-40 patients already on a ventilator. So thinking there are 50 spots available for extra cases due to coronavirus is not true.
Frankly, I go to conferences where some company is always trying to sell a newer, better, ventilator. I am surprised there aren't a reasonable number already made but not sold (prior to the crisis).
As I may have mentioned before, every OR has an anesthesia machine which has a ventilator. At my hospital that would add 17 more if they were not being used for surgery. Probably a couple hundred in Buffalo if you add up all the hospitals and surgicenters.
It would be interesting if somehow the hospitals wanted to confiscate the ventilators from stand alone surgi centers.
Quote: billryanAfter the MGM shootings, most elective surgeries were postponed. I imagine that will be the case elsewhere soon. My neighbor is scheduled for cataract surgery in three weeks and is worried about it being canceled.
I wouldn't be surprised if they start asking all kinds of MDs from every profession to provide assistance, in areas they haven't worked in since a training internship.
Is Buffalo like Detroit dependent on a huge number of nurses from Canada? So much so that they would have to basically live in Buffalo should or when they shut the border/ bridges there down?
Friend here in Windsor area that's a nurse had a post on her facebook about Seattle area trying to get Nurses for a few weeks $3500 for 48 hr weeks . Crisis pay
Quote: SOOPOOJust so you all have some perspective, my hospital had (guess) 50 ventilators and maybe as many ICU beds. It would be pretty easy to increase the number of ICU beds rather quickly. What makes a bed an ICU bed mostly is the dedicated nursing staff at low ratios. In an emergency the ratios can be adjusted of course.
The thing to remember is that on any given day there are 30-40 patients already on a ventilator. So thinking there are 50 spots available for extra cases due to coronavirus is not true.
Frankly, I go to conferences where some company is always trying to sell a newer, better, ventilator. I am surprised there aren't a reasonable number already made but not sold (prior to the crisis).
As I may have mentioned before, every OR has an anesthesia machine which has a ventilator. At my hospital that would add 17 more if they were not being used for surgery. Probably a couple hundred in Buffalo if you add up all the hospitals and surgicenters.
It would be interesting if somehow the hospitals wanted to confiscate the ventilators from stand alone surgi centers.
Maybe another country bought the surplus up before anyone here in the US even thought of it . Happened kind of but not really. Just read an article saying Germany ordered 10,000 machines and the US has ordered none. They can be made, but our government hasn't ordered them and hospitals haven't because they don't want to be stuck with expensive never will be used ventilators. It can be almost done enough.
In other news, the Federal gov't is issuing expired N95 masks to hospitals for the staff to use in numbers about equal to single digit percents of what was asked for.
Quote: ChumpChangeVentilators are $40K each, so a thousand of them would be $40 million; 10,000 would be $400 million; and 100,000 of them would be $4 billion.
Hell, if it came down to it, I would pay $40k out of my own pocket to have a ventilator built if it would save my life... We should be throwing money at building these things.
Quote: billryanI will admit to knowing nothing about ventilators but assume they run on electricity. Would adding a few hundred of them in a hospital overpower their electric grid?
Not an engineer, nor an electrician, but I am nearly certain the answer is no. The number of electricity sucking devices used in a hospital is staggering. An extra 100 ventilators would be a blip. Assume also that the electricity heavy use location of the OR is now shuttered. Elective clinics shuttered. Etc....
CORONA seems to have prompted changes based on fragmentary, politicized data wherein possible, but unlikely events, are given undue weight and demographic stratification trumps a purely clinical-based triage response..
Ten days after infection the virus is detectable on mucousal surfaces, but the patient is probably not infectious. Political decisions regarding possible but unlikely consequences are being used to allocate resources.