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September 19th, 2018 at 3:28:54 PM permalink
The last 2 years I have bought the founders card to get my diamond status with CET. It has been well worth it because I have saved resort fees on 17 nights this year plus the other benefits.

I have made my way to 7800 tier credits this year which is way more than normal so now I am thinking that I should just get the points needed to earn diamond this year. The founders card is always hit or miss whether they are going to have cet involved every year anyways. If I am remembering corectly I only need 2500 tier and will get a bonus of 5k which would get me there.

Obviously the cheapest EV wise is going to be find 9/6 JoB that does the standard rate on earning tier, but with variance it could cost a ton. I would have to cycle 25k in for this and some people on here know how much I can lose on that coin in.

What are some other options? I would spend $400 on the founders card anyways so I was thinking even something like doey/dont on shoot to win craps, or red/black/green on electronic roulette but I am not sure how many tier you earn for coin in on those.

Any help to ge this done on here or through PM would be appreciated
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September 19th, 2018 at 4:04:52 PM permalink
I've gone the Slots route and VP route a couple of times over the years. VP worked out really well once, and not so well the other time. I would check VPFREE and see what the VP returns are for the CET properties that are within your travel tolerance. Just be sure to check the notes to see if the machine earns 1 Tier Credit for $ 10 coin-in.
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September 19th, 2018 at 4:09:16 PM permalink
Quest for rewards is likely the cheapest way to earn TC’s straight up. But you're super limited by the timing of the promotion.
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September 19th, 2018 at 4:16:09 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Quest for rewards is likely the cheapest way to earn TC’s straight up. But you're super limited by the timing of the promotion.



I wish that I would have planned better. I was in vegas in April when they were doing the quest and got a bunch. Then I was in atlantic city in Aug when they were going double tier credits. Imgur to 7800 without trying. I had no intentions to getting 15k so I wasnt worried about. If I would have given 5 minute of thought about it then I would have gotten it easily.
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September 19th, 2018 at 4:17:37 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

The last 2 years I have bought the founders card to get my diamond status with CET. It has been well worth it because I have saved resort fees on 17 nights this year plus the other benefits.

I have made my way to 7800 tier credits this year which is way more than normal so now I am thinking that I should just get the points needed to earn diamond this year. The founders card is always hit or miss whether they are going to have cet involved every year anyways. If I am remembering corectly I only need 2500 tier and will get a bonus of 5k which would get me there.

Obviously the cheapest EV wise is going to be find 9/6 JoB that does the standard rate on earning tier, but with variance it could cost a ton. I would have to cycle 25k in for this and some people on here know how much I can lose on that coin in.

What are some other options? I would spend $400 on the founders card anyways so I was thinking even something like doey/dont on shoot to win craps, or red/black/green on electronic roulette but I am not sure how many tier you earn for coin in on those.

Any help to ge this done on here or through PM would be appreciated



In my local casino, hialeah, roulette play earns no points, only slots do and i was personally told a next tier upgrade is 9,000 points (45,000 coin in) .If your casino is like hialeah, i would suggest sticking to playing slots mainly if tier upgrade is your main goal. :)
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September 19th, 2018 at 6:16:19 PM permalink
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In my local casino, hialeah, roulette play earns no points, only slots do and i was personally told a next tier upgrade is 9,000 points (45,000 coin in) .If your casino is like hialeah, i would suggest sticking to playing slots mainly if tier upgrade is your main goal. :)



Ok thanks for the advise. It was helpful.
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September 19th, 2018 at 6:35:35 PM permalink
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Ok thanks for the advise. It was helpful.



You are welcome. :)
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September 19th, 2018 at 6:55:02 PM permalink
If you expect a 5% loss on $25,000 coin, it's $1250, so obviously $625 if 2.5%. I assume the $400 is after January, the deadline for CET is before January. That is a dilemma. Your only hope to spend less than $400 is to royal then, and I'm not sure the tier points will be what you expect. Guess there is some value on piece of mind, if you get it, you have it and don't have to worry about the founder's card. I'm guessing the founder's card isn't also useful for other things you value.
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September 19th, 2018 at 7:39:15 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

If you expect a 5% loss on $25,000 coin, it's $1250, so obviously $625 if 2.5%. I assume the $400 is after January, the deadline for CET is before January. That is a dilemma. Your only hope to spend less than $400 is to royal then, and I'm not sure the tier points will be what you expect. Guess there is some value on piece of mind, if you get it, you have it and don't have to worry about the founder's card. I'm guessing the founder's card isn't also useful for other things you value.



if i'm not mistaken, isn't the founder's card the best card you can get? :/
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September 19th, 2018 at 9:09:01 PM permalink
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if i'm not mistaken, isn't the founder's card the best card you can get? :/



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September 20th, 2018 at 10:24:57 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

If you expect a 5% loss on $25,000 coin, it's $1250, so obviously $625 if 2.5%. I assume the $400 is after January, the deadline for CET is before January. That is a dilemma. Your only hope to spend less than $400 is to royal then, and I'm not sure the tier points will be what you expect. Guess there is some value on piece of mind, if you get it, you have it and don't have to worry about the founder's card. I'm guessing the founder's card isn't also useful for other things you value.



founderrs card has lots of other value but nothing that I ever need.

Yeah the big thing is my renewal is Nov 10th. So I need to renew it soon but I wouldnt know until Jan if they renewed their agreement. Once you cancel the founders card supposedly they will never allow you to buy it again so its not even like I could just wait until Jan.

what is a 5% loss. I would hope I didn't lose 5% which is why I am not sure if I want to go the vp route.
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September 20th, 2018 at 10:35:43 AM permalink
I read a blog about a guy who abused the heck out of his card. I was stunned by some of his plays. Buying a fully refundable first class ticket just to entertain a friend in a luxury elite status lounge at an airport, as an example.
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September 20th, 2018 at 1:07:17 PM permalink
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I read a blog about a guy who abused the heck out of his card. I was stunned by some of his plays. Buying a fully refundable first class ticket just to entertain a friend in a luxury elite status lounge at an airport, as an example.



I dont understand. Buy a ticket, go to airport and use lounge, then do refund for the flight leaves?

I am not even sure my airport has the special lounges.
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September 20th, 2018 at 1:32:03 PM permalink
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I read a blog about a guy who abused the heck out of his card. I was stunned by some of his plays. Buying a fully refundable first class ticket just to entertain a friend in a luxury elite status lounge at an airport, as an example.



I think that is a great play.
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September 20th, 2018 at 1:36:07 PM permalink
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I dont understand. Buy a ticket, go to airport and use lounge, then do refund for the flight leaves?

I am not even sure my airport has the special lounges.



Yes, you can get the refund at anytime if you didn't use the flight. Pittsburgh probably has a lounge for American.
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September 20th, 2018 at 3:02:47 PM permalink
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Yes, you can get the refund at anytime if you didn't use the flight. Pittsburgh probably has a lounge for American.



Just looked. American has the only lounge in pittsburgh. It says food available for purchase. Not sure what the point is if no food is included. It is $59 for a day pass.
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September 20th, 2018 at 3:44:47 PM permalink
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Just looked. American has the only lounge in pittsburgh. It says food available for purchase. Not sure what the point is if no food is included. It is $59 for a day pass.



Most higher end lounges have free food and free alcohol. Some have showers which I have taken advantage of when travelling internationally.
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