You're welcome.Quote: beachbumbabsThanks for the corrections and additions, FleaStiff!
Though it seems I reversed the sequence of errors on those oxygen generators. The FO signed off on "Empty" oxygen generators that had originally been tagged as "Expired" oxygen generators. In fact, most were full and most lacked safety caps.
Anyway, the point remains that in an industry focused on safety it is necessary to focus on those who shave away those safety margins even though their planes still land without incident.
And Southwest happens the next day.
Getting back into ATC mode brings back the "God watches every sparrow fall" mindset that's a heavy responsibility and trap in the job. (If a controller doesn't feel that way, though, that's a DANGEROUS controller: it just has a backlash to your ego.)
Anyway, I feel karmically responsible(if that's even a word). Shutting up now.
One of my favorite quotes from the Big Bang Theory:Quote: beachbumbabs...Anyway, I feel karmically responsible(if that's even a word). Shutting up now.
Sheldon: "Well this is what someone who doesn't understand the law of large numbers is would consider a coincidence."
You understand the law of large numbers babs, had ZERO to do with you. If that were the case then the MAJORITY ;-) of america would be typing out every day "Trump has never had a heart attack!"
Sun Country Airlines Leaves Over 200 Passengers Stuck in Mexico, Senator Demands Answers
http://www.newsweek.com/sun-country-airlines-leaves-over-200-passengers-stuck-mexico-senator-demands-888819
Bite the bullet and do not escalate the problem or let it propagate throughout the entire system.
Aircraft and pilot availability limits their response
Saying you are on your own but will receive full refunds is the best thing to do no matter how much it pisses off those two plane loads of passengers.
Bad for their image perhaps but still the right thing to do.
The old saying. "You got what you pay for". You want it cheap, you got shit service. Pay more for a more reliable airline .Quote: JohnnyQAnd speaking of crappy airlines:
Sun Country Airlines Leaves Over 200 Passengers Stuck in Mexico, Senator Demands Answers
http://www.newsweek.com/sun-country-airlines-leaves-over-200-passengers-stuck-mexico-senator-demands-888819
Quote: FleaStiffThe airline made the correct decision.
Saying you are on your own but will receive full refunds is the best thing to do no matter how much it pisses off those two plane loads of passengers.
Bad for their image perhaps but still the right thing to do.
I think the correct decision is to bite the bullet and help all those poor folks get tickets on other airlines. Surely that would have cost less than the bad publicity that this has generated for Sun Country.
WHAT ? Maybe ? ? ? Not.Quote: billryanSun is an affiliate of Delta. There is no excuse for stranding those people, and I think the blame is going to fall squarely on Delta.
On December 14, 2017, The Davis Brothers announced they would be selling the airline to New York Based Apollo Global Management for an undisclosed amount. The airline will still be headquartered in Eagan, Minnesota lead by CEO Jude Bricker. This move is in hopes that Apollo's finances will allow the airline to "grow as it pleases".
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Country_Airlines
Quote: JohnnyQWHAT ? Maybe ? ? ? Not.
On December 14, 2017, The Davis Brothers announced they would be selling the airline to New York Based Apollo Global Management for an undisclosed amount. The airline will still be headquartered in Eagan, Minnesota lead by CEO Jude Bricker. This move is in hopes that Apollo's finances will allow the airline to "grow as it pleases".
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Country_Airlines
I stand corrected. Not sure why I thought they were part of Delta.
I stopped flying Delta when they stopped flying through Dallas many years ago. Jet Blue came along with non-stops to everywhere I needed to go and had a kickass frequent flyer program so I broke with them and never went back.
Quote: DRichI just survived another Allegiant flight. $38 each way with no extra fees. I will continue to fly these budget airlines until I fall from the sky.
It's generally the times/dates/no stops that gets me on these crap airlines rather than the price.
I just flew frontier and they have the worst seats I've ever seen, worse than Spirit. Literally like a plastic chair.
Quote: gamerfreakIt's generally the times/dates/no stops that gets me on these crap airlines rather than the price.
I just flew frontier and they have the worst seats I've ever seen, worse than Spirit. Literally like a plastic chair.
Same here.
I mainly only fly to Vegas and we've got three nonstop choices out of DTW: Southwest (1 nonstop per day), Delta (3-5 nonstops per day), Spirit (3 nonstops per day).
I'm 6 foot 1 and I find that SW planes have the most legroom, where my knees don't even touch the seat in front of me. Delta is hit or miss in the legroom department (although getting better). And I've only flown Spirit one time as a last minute desperate measure. Having read all the horror stories about Spirit's seats, I paid the extra $70 for the big front seat.
Once you add in all the extra fees (I always check my luggage), Spirit just as pricey as the other two airlines.
Quote: DRichI just survived another Allegiant flight. $38 each way with no extra fees. I will continue to fly these budget airlines until I fall from the sky.
Well, you chances of falling from the sky on a full priced airline are pretty low and if you do crash, you actually have a pretty good chance of surviving that adventure. Ofcourse your chances a bit poorer on the Ultra Low Cost Carriers, but its a bit like the difference between the Pass Line at Craps and the Don't Pass line. You've got to go out four decimal places to notice any difference and one drink is liable to shift the percentages anyway.
Sun sent those leased planes back to Holland to meet contractual commitments on time. Also much of their revenue is from Charter Flights wherein its not really the passengers that choose the airline.
Spirit and luggage fees??? Try Spirit and FedEx instead.