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January 20th, 2019 at 6:46:22 PM permalink
My wife as a teacher (oh) has accumulated 140 sick days and will get paid for 1/4 of them upon retirement. If one of her fellow teachers gets sick and uses all of their sick days she or anyone else can give said fellow teacher some of their sick days. I believe there might be a limit though.
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January 20th, 2019 at 7:35:43 PM permalink
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Arenít ATC just glorified crossing guards in front of schools? Your job is one thing: Make sure two planes donít hit each other.

We need common sense resolutions to this kinda stuff. Just put up stop lights like you find at any intersection on the road. Ez

Okay, maybe Iím joking. But real talk ó even though being an ATC would be easy for me, I can see how itíd be hard for many people (ok, again, joking :) ). But why does ATC have to be govt employees? Why canít they just work for the airport (which should be privately owned) - same with TSA and whoever else? Theyíd still have to pass training, get licensed, etc.



None if us use wands or wear reflective vests, no. Lol.

Couple reasons for ATC to be inherently govt.

The biggest is we are a large part of border protection, drug interdiction, etc. We are sworn to and immediately responsible to DOD in certain scenarios. We move the military, the President, and other heads of state, and a lot of it is sensitive or secret.

The almost-as-biggest is that we are non-partisan arbiters. Skies, runways, taxiways are limited resources. We do not favor any particular company or entity except for priority missions and emergencies. Any private company is going to be putting particular users above others for any of a multitude of reasons. We can stay neutral and be a resource for all users equally. First come, first served.

There are other reasons in both directions. Uniform training and proficiency requirements. No conflicts of interest. Aviation tax more than pays operating budget so why pay some other company more than that to run the same operation. Public ownership of a trillions dollar airspace system - no one is in a position to pay what it's worth, so if they sell it off, they will get pennies on the dollar and cheat the public.

It works ok for some other countries. But there is no country or group (ie Eurocontrol) that runs 1/10th of the traffic we do, and we do it with less controllers per aircraft than anyone else, too.

In China, it's 1 aircraft, 1 controller. Something similar in India. We work 20 at once routinely, I have personally worked more than 200 in a single hour many times. It's not that unusual to have to do that. Somewhat rare, but 100/hour is pretty routine.

Without whining, Gen public has no idea what a bargain we are, and they own us. And now we've been working for 30 days without being paid. (Yes, I'm retired, but I've been working to get the others their pay).

Please call your Senators and tell them to reopen the government. Or email them on their .government websites. It takes 3 minutes, tops. But the Senate offices are counting every call, and the pressure is starting to be effective.

Thanks.
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January 20th, 2019 at 7:39:51 PM permalink
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In my particular department that's not true. The ladder climbers were the ones who scared themselves and others. If they could tie their shoes without tripping, they would get "promoted" into mgmt or staff just to get them away from the airplanes. They might or might not be able to do that job, but at least they weren't killing people.

Maybe 1 in 3 could actually run traffic.



The Dilbert Principle rather than the Peter Principle.

In my experience I've far more often seen people reassigned rather than promoted to minimize the damage they could do.

One co-worker, a manager I'll call "25", had 25 years on the job and retirement on the horizon. As a result, 25 felt untouchable ("I've worked here 25 years. What's anyone gonna do?") and would freely confront, disrupt, and demean. You can imagine the complaints lodged against 25.

Upper managment, faced with this potential liability, reassigned 25. Who spent the final months before retirement making copies in the corner. Yes, they literally sent 25 to the corner, like a misbehaving child.

Though I can't vouch for the truth of the anonymous New York Times op-ed about Trump published last September, I can vouch that those kinds of workarounds occur in the public and private sector.
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January 20th, 2019 at 7:40:45 PM permalink
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This may not be uniform for all federal employees, but I believe now any unused sick time gets added to your service time for calculating your annuity when you retire. If you worked twenty years, and banked a year of sick time, you get credit for 21 years for purposes of computing your annuity.

Depending on your position and the agency you work for, you could have a dizzying array of options for PTO.

You could receive PTO as part of a performance award.

You could earn "credit hours." For example, you work ten hours Monday through Thursday, earning two credit hours each day. Then you could use those eight credit hours to take Friday off. You would not get away with doing this every week.

Someone needing to take time off for medical reasons, but low on sick time, could receive advanced sick leave. That same peson could also get approval to receive donations of PTO from other employees.

This is in addition to the accual every two weeks of 4 sick hours, 4-8 hours of annual, and ten federal holidays. Not to mention the holiday federal employees receive when a POTUS passes away.

The above isn't exhaustive, but I figure I've given the haters enough reasons to hate federal workers.



Yeah, all that, too, but I was trying to keep it simple and answer the exact questions AoS was asking. He prefers it that way. Dizzying, complex, yup. And it changes nearly every year, usually for the worse.
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January 20th, 2019 at 8:51:51 PM permalink
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even considering they were teenagers (they obviously get their BS from their parents) can you believe that 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒔𝒆 𝑻𝒓𝒖𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒕𝒖𝒑𝒊𝒅 to think that Native Americans are immigrants?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/us/covington-catholic-high-school-nathan-phillips.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage



The actions of these young idiots are reprehensible.

Thankfully, idiots are not part of the vast majority of either side of the political aisle.



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Perhaps I believed the earlier reports too quickly...there seems to be other idiots involved and the story changes. Someone said there was an hour or more of video. we'll see what comes of it.

I stand by this 100%...Thankfully, idiots are not part of the vast majority of either side of the political aisle.
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January 21st, 2019 at 5:20:26 AM permalink
Most drugs come through ports of entry (as far as we know; I am not sure it can be proven unless we knew about all drugs actually brought in).

We have to defend thousands of miles of border because there is no barrier to entry.

Cameras and drones won't change that--people will still have to go find people once notified by electronics.

Cameras, drones, and other electronic surveillance equipment in conjunction with a barrier to entry will change things. People will still try to breach them, but it makes it a lot harder for them to do so.

Those resources would also have a tendency to funnel people in any given area towards entry at a...port of entry.

There should be barriers (well placed) to entry and barriers to illegal immigrants getting any kind of an advantage towards staying here over those who come in legally.

We should take care of DACA kids as part of the process of tightening our borders.

All foreign aid to the countries sending people our way should be slowed down until they help us control the problem in a humanitarian way. We should provide humanitarian aid to those countries who help make a difference in a humane way.

Companies need to be punished for using illegal labor. That is the dirty little not-so-secret that keeps some quiet on the issue--cheap labor. I am all for cheap labor but only as cheap as the supply of legal immigrants and citizens allows. That would include legal admissions for some to work here.

I am not against immigration...I am against illegal entry and overstaying visas in our country.
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January 21st, 2019 at 7:14:57 AM permalink
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article224855785.html

Rest in Piece Ruthie Baby.

Obviously Fox has inside info. Looks like Trump is going to get to make more Liberal heads explode. And of course some nominee is going to get their life turned upside down.

Hate has no home here....Unless you support Trump, then rot in H##l Mother F*#$&R.
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January 21st, 2019 at 7:51:10 AM permalink
Since the government shutdown I'm zipping through TSA faster than ever at McCarran airport and another one. I was amazed how fast it was. I go though as fast as I can move myself. When I brought this up to one of the agents... he said, "ya, we are just doing things more efficiently now." Perhaps all the crappy lazy agents are calling in sick.

Is it somehow less safe? I have no idea.
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January 21st, 2019 at 7:52:21 AM permalink
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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article224855785.html

Rest in Piece Ruthie Baby.

Obviously Fox has inside info. Looks like Trump is going to get to make more Liberal heads explode. And of course some nominee is going to get their life turned upside down.

Hate has no home here....Unless you support Trump, then rot in H##l Mother F*#$&R.



You're way over your skis, Boz. That could happen, but it hasn't. Someone flipped the wrong switch in the control room.

It's very common for news media to prepare, and keep updated, obit info in advance for many known public figures. I would bet a large amount of money, for example, that all major networks have standing files on RBG, Trump, Queen Elizabeth, Prince Phillip, Kirk Douglas, and Betty White, among many others. That could have been one slide among hundreds that was being updated from "2018" to "2019".

However much you wish her ill, I am countermanding it x2 for her continued recovery. So just move along with your bad karma.
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January 21st, 2019 at 8:02:05 AM permalink
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You're way over your skis, Boz. That could happen, but it hasn't. Someone flipped the wrong switch in the control room.

It's very common for news media to prepare, and keep updated, obit info in advance for many known public figures. I would bet a large amount of money, for example, that all major networks have standing files on RBG, Trump, Queen Elizabeth, Prince Phillip, Kirk Douglas, and Betty White, among many others. That could have been one slide among hundreds that was being updated from "2018" to "2019".

However much you wish her ill, I am countermanding it x2 for her continued recovery. So just move along with your bad karma.



I understand having obits ready and updated; it only makes sense.

Is it wrong to think triggering a graphic like that should be a little more difficult than "flipping the wrong switch?" I don't know how hard it is to go to air with that kind of graphic, but it seems like it should not be in the queue for airing until, well, it is time to air it. I know seconds matter in "being first" but being "pre-first" is not desirable for any news organization.

I am not a fan of the justice overall because I think she believes in a living constitution--which to me means we'll decide what it means to us today, not what it meant when written--but I wish death upon no one with the exception of some heinous criminals of various kinds.

At least they aren't standing by their reporting like BuzzKill!

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